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Flintshire / Re: Taylor Bryn y Baal Farm Mold Flintshire
« on: Sunday 08 October 06 19:40 BST (UK) »
The name was originally Bryn-y-Bal (with a circumflex over the 'a' of Bal). The name according to the leading authority on Place names of Flintshire comes from a 'Middle English' word 'bale' - pronounced to rhyme with Carl - not 'bale' (as of hay) or bail (as in get out jail!). When this is written in Welsh, the circumflex indicates that the 'a' is lengthened (as in Carl) rather than the usual short 'a' in Welsh. Apparently 'bale' in middle english means small round hill. Early maps show is spelt as Bryn y Bal (with circumflex) i.e. 1841 Ordnance Survey i inch map etc. Note Mynydd Isa is not shown! Baal is an Anglised form of 'bal'. See 'Place names of East Flintshire by Hywel Wyn Owen ISBN 9780708312421 Price £55.00!!! The ultimate research on Flintshire place names!
I have no record of your Martha Ann Hopwood born 1874 in any census for Bryn-y-Baal (or Mold area). I have a Martha Ann Hopwood who was aged 'under 1 month' at the time of the 1871 census. She was the daughter of Thomas b1828 and Ann b1830 Hopwood. Thomas was Isiah's older brother. Thomas and Ann lived in Bryn y Baal in 1881 then moved to New Brighton. Martha is shown there aged 20 single. There is also an 'unexplained' grandson - Edward aged 1 living with the family. By the time of the 1901 census, Thomas was a widower living in Northop with Edward now aged 11. No trace of Martha Ann!
Isiah Hopwood (he is sometimes shown as Isaiah and or Hoopwood in various censues) in shown living at Bryn y Baal) in all the censuses. The problem with the area is that it is crossed by an Ecclesiastical boundary (that of the Mold and Bistre parishes). Argoed is the name of the ancient township which covered the area which now includes the villages of Bryn-y-Baal, Mynydd Isa and New Brighton. Mynydd Isa was a tiny hamlet which doesn't even appear on the 1841 1inch OS map. Other hamlet names such as Pant y Fawenog have disappeared all together! It is difficult to follow the folk in the area as each census describes the area differently. For instance they live in Bryn-y-Baal in one, Chambers Lane in another (Chambers lane was Argoed Road in early censuses!) and Argoed in another. Sometimes they are shown as being in Mold ad other times in Bistre! All very difficult!
Ian Jolly (former Chairman, Argoed Community Council)
I have no record of your Martha Ann Hopwood born 1874 in any census for Bryn-y-Baal (or Mold area). I have a Martha Ann Hopwood who was aged 'under 1 month' at the time of the 1871 census. She was the daughter of Thomas b1828 and Ann b1830 Hopwood. Thomas was Isiah's older brother. Thomas and Ann lived in Bryn y Baal in 1881 then moved to New Brighton. Martha is shown there aged 20 single. There is also an 'unexplained' grandson - Edward aged 1 living with the family. By the time of the 1901 census, Thomas was a widower living in Northop with Edward now aged 11. No trace of Martha Ann!
Isiah Hopwood (he is sometimes shown as Isaiah and or Hoopwood in various censues) in shown living at Bryn y Baal) in all the censuses. The problem with the area is that it is crossed by an Ecclesiastical boundary (that of the Mold and Bistre parishes). Argoed is the name of the ancient township which covered the area which now includes the villages of Bryn-y-Baal, Mynydd Isa and New Brighton. Mynydd Isa was a tiny hamlet which doesn't even appear on the 1841 1inch OS map. Other hamlet names such as Pant y Fawenog have disappeared all together! It is difficult to follow the folk in the area as each census describes the area differently. For instance they live in Bryn-y-Baal in one, Chambers Lane in another (Chambers lane was Argoed Road in early censuses!) and Argoed in another. Sometimes they are shown as being in Mold ad other times in Bistre! All very difficult!
Ian Jolly (former Chairman, Argoed Community Council)