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Other Countries / Re: Origin of the surname Koneth?
« on: Tuesday 31 October 23 14:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Ian Nelson and garstonite

I had a guess that the area of todays Hungary could be the origin of the Koneth, but no evidence searching the Hungarian surnames. They have e.g. Bernath with the ending -th, but it is not a common ending in Hungary.
I will message to these people having Koneth on geneanet.

Marlise

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Other Countries / Re: Origin of the surname Koneth?
« on: Monday 30 October 23 18:34 GMT (UK)  »
Lisa in California

Well the period of 17th century is rather difficult to research. The manuscripts existing give informations about the ruling members of the society or are giving an idea of how society was organized.
Private person's records are mainly the church records. Average people did not leave much written traces in that period.

I am aware that a lot of people were leaving their homes because of wars or belonging to religious minorities. This happened almost continuously through Europe. I am also aware that people were rather mobile nevertheless they made their ways by walking big distances.

I posted my question because it could be somebody having more informations than me!

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Other Countries / Re: Origin of the surname Koneth?
« on: Monday 30 October 23 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Rena!
The only one on gedbas is Eva Koneth. I will write to this person having his family list with her.
The distribution maps go to Eastern Europe, but not really specific for one spot....
Miracula

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Other Countries / Origin of the surname Koneth?
« on: Saturday 28 October 23 12:29 BST (UK)  »
My ggrandmother's maiden name was KONETH. Her family is registered since 1640 in Holzenstein near Romanshorn, Thurgau, Switzerland, source "Bevölkerungsverzeichnis Evang. Kirchgemeinde BV Salmsach / Romanshorn, BV1630-1710.
The surname Koneth is very seldom in whole Switzerland. Due to the Swiss surnames registry all descendants with the surname Koneth seem to have their place of citizenship only in Holzenstein.

In the earliest inhabitants registers the Koneth men were having the first names Ulrich, Hans, Peter, Jakob, Philipp and Konrad what are common firstnames in the german speaking countries. So there is no indication to "foreign" first names whereas the surname sounds "foreign".

Nevertheless my guess is that this person/these persons having this surname KONETH were immigrating to Switzerland. This must have happened around end of 1500's beginning 1600's.

My questions are: Does somebody has information about other countries than Switzerland where this surname KONETH, maybe written Coneth or Conet is existing?
Or is there somebody knowing about the origin of this surname?



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Europe / Re: Georg Bergamin, Schleuis Switzerland
« on: Monday 17 July 23 20:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Karinann

You are right that an illegitimate child would get the surname of the mother if the father is not known.
Did you find these informations (Surname of mother and surname of child?) in the baptism record?

Do you know where Dorothea Unger lived? Is it likely that she married somebody called Bergamin and her illegitimate son was adopted?

It is more than not the case that the mother of an illegitimate child made an affiliation case in these times. For an inquiry about district court records it is the best to write to the county archive (Staatsarchiv Graubünden) in Chur, info@sag.gr.ch / www.staatsarchiv.gr.ch

Schleuis is the name used until 1983 for the todays place called Schluein which is situated near Ilanz anyway.

It would be interesting what was recorded in the place where Dorothea Unger had her citizenship. In the Register of Swiss Surnames for this period of time were very few places of citizenship for the surname Unger, see attachment. Safien is only "over the mountains" of Ilanz situated in the next valley direction Chur.

Most likely the church records of Safien, if they are existing, are in the states archive (Staatsarchiv) in Chur.

 

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Cork / Re: Noel House, Little Island, Co. Cork
« on: Wednesday 05 April 23 20:10 BST (UK)  »
I totally agree that the spelling is "Rock" House. The "k" in Cork just beneath is similar in "Rock". Thank you all for your posts!

There is a Rock Farm in the townland Ballytrasna, the Civ. Parish Little Island due to the historical map on Geohive Mapviewer of the period 1830 to 1930. Due to the "Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, 1840 by Samuel Lewis", the owner of Rockfarm was J. Cantillon. Maybe Hermann Jaeggi was working for this quarry owner (census 1901) between 1891 and his wedding 1900. Jaeggi and his wife are not in the census 1901.

Hermann Jaeggi was steward at the Munster Club, 8 South Mall, in Cork City.
It is open since when he was working there. He is in the Cork directory at 1904.

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The Common Room / Re: Switzerland records
« on: Wednesday 05 April 23 06:24 BST (UK)  »
Just an important note: familysearch has a lot of wrong transcriptions of the handwritten Kirchenbücher. The reason is the unknown names of people and places if somebody is doing the transcription who is English speaking! The best is to verify the information you got from familysearch with the primary source! The other problem is that there was a period the entries in the Kirchenbücher for women surnames got a special ending e.g. Hauserin, Müllerin, Lehmännin…

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The Common Room / Re: Switzerland records
« on: Tuesday 04 April 23 22:35 BST (UK)  »
This is the site to find the Heimatort (place of citizenship) which is connected to each surname in Switzerland > https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/famn/

Here the link to the digitized church records (Kirchenbücher) of the county Bern (Kt. Bern) published by the countyarchive Bern > https://www.staatsarchiv.sta.be.ch/de/start/fuer-private/familienforschung.html

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Cork / Re: Noel House, Little Island, Co. Cork
« on: Sunday 26 March 23 20:51 BST (UK)  »
Sinann,

Mary Jaeggi nee Kennedy had no children. After the sudden death in 1923 of her husband Hermann she sold by auction Hotel Bayview and for sure lived in the household of my widowed grandfather Samuel Wanner in Schleitheim, Schaffhausen, Switzerland after 1928.
Why there?
Three of Mary Jaeggi's fully orphaned nieces were coming to live with the nephew of Hermann Jaeggi who was pastor in Schleitheim. My grandmother and her younger sister married local men.
Mary Jaeggi later lived with the only surviving niece and her family first in Schleitheim, later in London. There she died.

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