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Occupation Interests / Re: how were surgeons trained abut 1800
« on: Sunday 08 December 24 10:50 GMT (UK)  »
In the 1700s Ships' Surgeons mostly learnt their trade "hands on" and university training only became usual in the 1800s. Army Regiments may have had a university educated chief surgeon c.1850 but they still had come from using slightly dodgy Barber-Surgeons. In 1800 very few of the field surgeons would have been university trained.

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Sunday 08 December 24 10:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi corinne, can't help on the DNA front although am pretty sure quite a few of the Sutton Curtises headed east  towards London and were still there c.1900.

regarding "Reginald Cortys, a freeman, living in 1274", were the Sutton Curtises related to the Curtis family living on the Gloucs/Berks/Oxon border? I think they had a Reginald Curtis c.1400 who was a wool exporter and had many ships and helped transport the army that went to Agincourt?

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Kent / Re: Nynne family of Great Chart
« on: Sunday 08 December 24 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
Another old Nynne occurrence is in MS Add.Ch 36609 @ the Br Lib. Its precis is:

Fine between Wm Nynne, Wm Brant jnr, Jn Eythurst & Jn Holstrete querent receive from Jn Sare & Isabella his wife deforciants of land in Egerton for £20. 22 April 1459

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Oxfordshire / Re: Early Oxfordshire Wills
« on: Saturday 31 August 24 01:12 BST (UK)  »
The 1542 PCC Will of Henry Marmion, alderman of Gloucester mentions a brother Anthony and an IPM was held for an Anthony Marmion in 1550 on Oxfordshire

see:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D950030
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7760801

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Saturday 31 August 24 00:21 BST (UK)  »
Incidentally, the usual explanation for the Curtis surname is that it was given to someone that was courteous and a lot of early Curtis records are listed as "le Courteis" or similar. But others are listed as "de Courteys", etc so they may not all have the same origin.

As pronunciation changed with time is it possible that "Courteney" changed to a "Courteneys" and then to a "Courteys"?

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Saturday 31 August 24 00:06 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Vance,

The charming [!!!] 1373, 47 Edw III, CIPM entry for "Roger son of Richard de Stanlak, an idiot" mentions that Isabel widow of Richard remarried William Courteys of Sutton Courteneye

and Parliamentary Writs list William Curtis as manucaptor of Thomas Bone, Burgess of Wallingford back in 1318.

It seems they were in the area for at least 500 years..

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Berkshire / Re: Origin of Curtis of Sutton Courtenay
« on: Wednesday 03 April 24 23:04 BST (UK)  »
Thanks.

The earlyish English Curtis families I have seen come from:-

  • Cornwall
  • Gloucs/Oxon border
  • Sutton Courtenay
  • East Anglia

I guess the Gloucs/Oxon & Sutton Courtenay may be the same due to proximity. As the Courtenay family settled in both Cornwall and Sutton Courtenay perhaps the Curtises of both are also linked?

Also, about 80% of early Curtis records are for "le Curtis/Courteis", etc but about 20% are for "de Curtis/Courteis". Two different orgins for the same modern name or clerical errors?

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Armed Forces / Re: where to find the movements of Royal Navy ships
« on: Wednesday 03 April 24 22:41 BST (UK)  »
=>  Masters' Logs   @   https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1761

Q.E.D.

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England / Re: Charnock family
« on: Wednesday 14 February 24 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
There were Charnocks writing wills in London before and after your Richard. These are just the PCC ones: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_fn=&_ln=charnock&_occ=&_pl=&_q=&_sd=1400&_ed=1750&discoveryCustomSearch=true&_cr1=PROB+11&_col=200&_hb=tna


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