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The Common Room / Re: What surname did children out of wedlock get about 1875?
« on: Wednesday 08 January 25 10:56 GMT (UK) »
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The Common Room / Re: What surname did children out of wedlock get about 1875?
« on: Wednesday 08 January 25 10:55 GMT (UK) »
So, you never can be sure. Everything is possible.
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The Common Room / Re: What surname did children out of wedlock get about 1875?
« on: Tuesday 07 January 25 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. So all pieces of info do fit together finally.
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The Common Room / Re: What surname did children out of wedlock get about 1875?
« on: Tuesday 07 January 25 20:08 GMT (UK) »
How could she be Watts??? I ve found their marriage only in 1880...
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The Common Room / What surname did children out of wedlock get about 1875?
« on: Tuesday 07 January 25 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello community,
Thomas Watts and Sarah Jane were living together from 1870 onwards https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBC1-BHD. As far as I know they ve not married before Apr 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66GP-L16J. Up until then Sarah Jane has most likely been married to Henry Black https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DC4-6PN who seems to have left her pretty soon after their marriage.
Thomas and Sarah Jane had a few children from 1870 onwards. All children bore the surname Watts. In GRO, the relevant MMN is Roebuck.
like:
- Annie Watts
Jul 1870 • Halifax, Yorkshire
GRO: WATTS, ANNIE ROEBUCK
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 509
- Alice Watts (April 1872, Rawmarsh),
- Caroline Watts (b 23 Apr 1877, 11 Meadow Works, Rawmarsh)
All of their children so far have been bapt on Sep 21 1880, Rawmarsh, St Mary The Virgin (parents: Thomas Watts, Sarah Jane Watts) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66BT-TSLM.
I ve got Caroline's birth register entry. It says: Name of Mother: Jane Watts, late Black, formerly Roebuck. What does it mean? Still Sarah Jane Black???
What was the surname given to children born out of wedlock to parents living together during this time? Is the father's name conceivable?
Thank you
Thomas Watts and Sarah Jane were living together from 1870 onwards https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBC1-BHD. As far as I know they ve not married before Apr 1880 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66GP-L16J. Up until then Sarah Jane has most likely been married to Henry Black https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DC4-6PN who seems to have left her pretty soon after their marriage.
Thomas and Sarah Jane had a few children from 1870 onwards. All children bore the surname Watts. In GRO, the relevant MMN is Roebuck.
like:
- Annie Watts
Jul 1870 • Halifax, Yorkshire
GRO: WATTS, ANNIE ROEBUCK
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 509
- Alice Watts (April 1872, Rawmarsh),
- Caroline Watts (b 23 Apr 1877, 11 Meadow Works, Rawmarsh)
All of their children so far have been bapt on Sep 21 1880, Rawmarsh, St Mary The Virgin (parents: Thomas Watts, Sarah Jane Watts) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66BT-TSLM.
I ve got Caroline's birth register entry. It says: Name of Mother: Jane Watts, late Black, formerly Roebuck. What does it mean? Still Sarah Jane Black???
What was the surname given to children born out of wedlock to parents living together during this time? Is the father's name conceivable?
Thank you
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England / Re: Do these pieces fit together?
« on: Monday 06 January 25 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Watts and Sarah Jane had a few children from 1870 onwards. All children bore the surname Watts. In GRO, the MMN is Roebuck.
What was the surname given to children born out of wedlock to parents living together during this time? Is the father's name conceivable?
e.g.:
Annie Watts
Jul 1870 • Halifax, Yorkshire
GRO: WATTS, ANNIE ROEBUCK
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 509
Alice Watts (April 1872, Rawmarsh), Caroline Watts (b 23 Apr 1877, 11 Meadow Works, Rawmarsh)
All of their children so far have been bapt on Sep 1 1880, Rawmarsh, St Mary The Virgin (parents: Thomas Watts (occup: burner), Sarah Jane Watts).
What was the surname given to children born out of wedlock to parents living together during this time? Is the father's name conceivable?
e.g.:
Annie Watts
Jul 1870 • Halifax, Yorkshire
GRO: WATTS, ANNIE ROEBUCK
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 509
Alice Watts (April 1872, Rawmarsh), Caroline Watts (b 23 Apr 1877, 11 Meadow Works, Rawmarsh)
All of their children so far have been bapt on Sep 1 1880, Rawmarsh, St Mary The Virgin (parents: Thomas Watts (occup: burner), Sarah Jane Watts).
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England / Re: Do these pieces fit together?
« on: Sunday 05 January 25 21:06 GMT (UK) »There is a birth registration for a John Henry Roebuck Jul -Sep 1866 Auckland RD...Great job!!! Very likely.
Thank you
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England / Re: Do these pieces fit together?
« on: Sunday 05 January 25 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Perfect!
I'd say, in 1871 Mary is the grandmother, (John) Henry, 24yrs, her son, John Henry, 4 yrs, his son. Looks like they ve left his wife/his mum. Maybe Sarah Jane.
I'd say, in 1871 Mary is the grandmother, (John) Henry, 24yrs, her son, John Henry, 4 yrs, his son. Looks like they ve left his wife/his mum. Maybe Sarah Jane.
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England / Re: Do these pieces fit together?
« on: Sunday 05 January 25 19:48 GMT (UK) »
That's what I thought as well.
There is John Henry Black, born in 1866, I ve mentioned in my first posting. Couldn't find him in UK GRO, only in familysearch.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N15Z-H38
No sign of both Henry and John Henry after 1866.
There is John Henry Black, born in 1866, I ve mentioned in my first posting. Couldn't find him in UK GRO, only in familysearch.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N15Z-H38
No sign of both Henry and John Henry after 1866.