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Banffshire / Re: Who is Catherine Sutherland married George Geddes 1812 then Donald Stuart 1827
« on: Monday 01 January 24 09:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Fordyce,

Thank you for both your posts in response to my question about the parents of Catherine Sutherland. I had no idea about Catherine Sutherland's connection with the Catholic Church until your reply. I've now managed to find the reference on Scotlands People thanks to you, though I would not have thought of looking in those church records without your assistance.

I have now also done a quick look at the Kirk records around 1790 but so far have not found anything further on Catherine's birth. When I have more time I will try to look through the Kirk records from Fordyce much more carefully, if possible over Catherine's life time. There is so much information associated with Catherine Sutherland that surely her parents will become evident in the end. If I come across any further information on George Geddes I will get back in touch as well.

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Banffshire / Re: Who is Catherine Sutherland married George Geddes 1812 then Donald Stuart 1827
« on: Saturday 30 December 23 13:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Forfarian,

Thank you for your question. Quite honestly, I stumbled on Catherine Sutherland's 1st marriage by accident. I was looking for my ancestor Alexander Stuart, who I understood had come from Banffshire. I finally found him in the census of 1841, with his father Donald Stuart and older brother Daniel. The parish baptism and other records confirmed the name of his mother as Catherine Sutherland.

What puzzled me was the presence of children (Jane, George and Isabella) with the surname Geddes who appeared on the same 1841 census record with father Donald Stuart and sons Alexander and Daniel. The Geddes children, who were older, seemed to be part of the household. The parish marriage records later confirmed the first marriage between Catherine and George Geddes and also baptisms of these children, whose ages also matched those in the 1841 census.

My family always seemed to believe that the Stuart branch had originated in Banffshire, but it has now become clear that Donald Stuart (born 1800) in fact moved from Rosshire with his brother Alexander Stuart (born 1802). Donald was probably 8+ years younger than his wife Catherine Sutherland.

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Banffshire / Who is Catherine Sutherland married George Geddes 1812 then Donald Stuart 1827
« on: Thursday 28 December 23 02:24 GMT (UK)  »
I would be grateful for help in identifying the parents of Catherine Sutherland of Fordyce, Bannfshire probably born 1792-1794, died 1830-1841.

Catherine (Cath.) Sutherland married George Geddes on 6 December 1812 in parish of Fordyce, Banffshire. Both were listed on marriage register as of Fordyce parish.
Catherine Sutherland and George Geddes had 7 children, all baptised in Sandend, Fordyce with the last child born after the death of George Geddes.
The children were Margaret Geddes, Jean Geddes, Ann Geddes, Catherine Geddes, George Geddes, Isabel Geddes and John Duncan Geddes.

Catherine Sutherland then married Donald Stuart on 12 July 1827 again in parish of Fordyce, Bannshire. Both were listed on marriage register as of Fordyce parish.
Catherine Sutherland and Donald Stuart had 2 children, Daniel Stuart born circa 1828 (no baptism record has been found) and Alexander Stuart baptised 4 July 1830 in Sandend.
Alexander Stuart is my ancestor.

Despite all the numerous entries in the parish registers I have still not managed to identify the parents and therefore ancestry of Catherine Sutherland.

From all the evidence, I think that Catherine must have been born around 1792-1794 (estimated age at first marriage and birth of first child), and died 1830-1841 (after birth of last child and before census 1841).
Catherine Sutherland doesn't appear in any census information, so there is no information on her place or date of birth. Both her marriages were in parish of Fordyce, Banffshire, and both recorded her as belonging to parish of Fordyce.
The parish records show that there were a number of other Sutherland families also living in Fordyce parish at the time.
Some Sutherlands are also listed as witnesses in the baptisms of the Catherine's children. However, despite all these tantalising details - and other pattern matching attempts - I have not yet managed to find a baptism record for Catherine on ScotlandsPeople in Fordyce nor have I managed to find any other evidence to confirm who her parents were.

I'm hoping that perhaps another descendent of Catherine Sutherland might have some family information which will help solve this mystery.

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