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Kerry / Re: Kelly Family
« on: Friday 15 August 25 09:32 BST (UK)  »
Then also, the shipslist original version lists a James Kelly as having paid the deposit for the passage of William and Mary Kelly to South Australia on the 1849 Trafalgar.

Thinking that James Kelly is a relative that had already migrated. A quick look shows there are multiple James Kelly's that migrated prior to 1849. One of which ended up in Riverton, but he was Scottish not Irish. Still trying to work that out but records are spotty.

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Kerry / Re: Kelly Family
« on: Friday 01 August 25 09:15 BST (UK)  »
Im also a descendant of the aformentioned Kelly family.

William and Mary Kelly. The only original source ive found in South Australia was the passenger list that says Queens County.
One issue is a maiden name for Mary... I tried looking for birth certificates in Australia for the 2 children born there. Isabella and William James. Isabellas birth doesnt have Mary's maiden name. The issue for WJ (b1857) is that there are 3 ppl with the same name that ended up in the Saddleworth area.
One WJ born in Clare in 1857 in Clare is listed in some ppls ancestry tree is the right one. However birth records say his mother is Margaret Miller. Whilst Margaret and Mary are at least interchangeable in my Scottish research it seems less likely. The other born Gawler Plains (like Clare is realistic for someone ending up in Saddleworth) has a mother listed as Mary Dunn. I found a marriage record for William Kelly and Mary Dunn in Queens County Ireland. So i think this is very possibly the right people. Also noteable is that in South Australia they were associated with the Methodist church. The Irish marriage was also protestant rather than Catholic. see attached.

Then, ive got my father to do a DNA test via ancestry and this links with several people descendant from William and Mary Kelly as expected. I also searched for the above surnames and didnt really get anything for Miller but loads of Dunn results, again, not conclusive but lends weight to the theory.. Whats very interesting is that there are a couple matches with people that in their trees are descended from a different set of Kelly's. Initially not so surprising given that its a popular name. However i see that there is also a William James Kelly in their family tree i initially thought it was the one born in Clare but this fella was born in 1860 in Adelaide and then had a child Richard J Kelly in Saddleworth. So there are now 3 WJ Kellys in the one small town!
I cant say for sure that my relation to this person is via this Kelly link but i cant see anything else in their seemingly well researched tree that gives any other possibility.
So, theres the possiblity that some of the different Kelly's in Saddleworth are infact related.


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Lanarkshire / Re: Agnes Craig
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 12:54 BST (UK)  »
Did either of you ever figure out anything more? I am trying to find an 1841 census that would include Agnes C, Janet and Margaret along with potentially the father (given the note on the 1951 version).

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Lanarkshire / Re: St Paul's Parish, Glasgow.
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 12:52 BST (UK)  »

i cant see what else it would say. I feel like "work" is pretty clear but less so the second half.

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Lanarkshire / Re: St Paul's Parish, Glasgow.
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 12:23 BST (UK)  »
I see from other posts of yours we are looking at the same people.

Im a Crawford and have some issues tracing that back beyond a Crawford marriage in 1838 in Glasgow before getting on a boat to Aus in 1849. Cant trace Crawfords back any further. I had an ancestry match with someone descending from the Crawford, Craig, Marshall line so ive been trying to take the info from this persons tree and trace it back further into the Crawford history to see if anything matches what i do know. That way trying to see if my ancestry match is indeed via the Crawford angle.

So in the census, one thing i find interesting is the note in the condition column for Agnes C. "Husband in workhouse"...if ive understood correctly. Implying that he might still be around at that point.

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Lanarkshire / Re: St Paul's Parish, Glasgow.
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 11:45 BST (UK)  »
Was just searching in google for the same address to find out more about it... to solve a mystery.
I am looking at a page of that same census and it would seem we are looking at the same page. curious what family you are investigating? For me its Crawford (Agnes, Margaret, Jane)

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Nairnshire / Re: "Alexander Rose, 1st of Dalnaheigleish" - Is Dalnaheigleish his POB?
« on: Wednesday 29 January 25 12:15 GMT (UK)  »
The sister of the David you mention was Ann Rose, she married a James Milne in Ardclach and moved to Australia. She would be my 3rd G Grandmother.

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Australia / Re: William GOODE (1808-1865)
« on: Tuesday 28 January 25 09:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Judith, the possiblity of him coming to Australia as a convict is a strong one imo. The good part of that is that there extensive records kept! I saw a while ago some dual name listing for William Goode/Henry Hill... strange. I hadnt looked into it more due to the term being life making it less likely he was out and in Adelaide in time to get married.


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Australia / Re: William GOODE (1808-1865)
« on: Monday 27 January 25 21:51 GMT (UK)  »
A couple of online trees suggest William GOODE was born in Northumberland and his wife [photo] was born Scotland.  Possibly you are aware of this however may help if you are searching convict records. 

Cando

I see that too, but no idea where it comes from. Seems very speculative when there doesn't even seem to be any proof of how he got to Aus or much of a biographical detail apart from a birthday range 1808-1815

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