Thought i should update this incase someone else looking into this family stumbles upon this thread, as I myself have done. As others have found there are limited original, confirmed sources for anything in Scotland. Ie Georges birth or John, Janets birth, 1841 census details (some on ancestry have ppl who can clearly be found in 1851 census which means they arrent the right people) are all either unknown or maybe missing?
There are 2 documents relating to John and Janets 1838 wedding. 1 is the certificate available via Scotlands People (SP) that mentions their names and Johns occupation – Cotton Warper.
What confirms that these are the right people (and that Janets assumed maiden name- Taylor, is the correct one) is the second document. It’s a personal family possession (not mine) whats been photographed and uploaded to ancestry etc. It mentions the same names along with some others. 2 McIntyres as parish clerks. When you look these 2 up they are attached to the Eastwood Parish church but also as parish clerks who recorded things more widely than just their own congregation. The 3rd name on that certificate is what gives more interesting information- “married by me- Finlay Stewart”. He is NOT related to the Eastwood parish church (COS) but the Pollokshaws Burgher Church. So a separate church has done the marriage but its been reported and recorded at the local parish.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=894393.9The church F Stewart was at first split in 1799 . The offshoot is available in SP under Other churches>Pollokshaws Associate. The naming of these churches and their splits is confusing because theyre similar and kept changing. But, I came across reference to a Burgher church burning down in 1847. This was the offshoot, not the original church.
Finlay Stewart was the minister of the Original church from 1810-1841. The records of this church are available in SP under other churches>Pollokshaws East Free. They only recorded baptisms so the marriage isn’t in these records. If you search births with this filter and for the last name Taylor you can find lots of people born in the right time period with the parents names being George Taylor and Mary Patrick. One of their children, born in 1819 is- “Jennet Taylor”. This baptism would’ve been performed by F Stewart. There is no John Crawford born at the “right” time though in these records. There are John Crawfords in same record but much later or earlier. So, either he is not himself born as part of this congregation or he was under a different first name. Ive started trying to make a family tree of all of those Crawfords born in Pollokshaws but they all seem to have a Scottish history past 1849.
After F Steward died the church split again. The new offshoot was called Pollokshaws United Original Succession. Its records aren’t in SP. They are in the NRS in Edinburgh. However, they do not include any baptisms or marriage. Just the church organizing committee minutes etc. Ive looked at these records and there are multiple mentions of John Crawford. Snr and Jnr. I have no way of proving if they are the right people or not. The fact though that the split occurred in 42 and that there are no birth records for this congregation in some way gives a plausible reason why there aren’t any birth records that I can find for the birth of Janet and Johns son George in 1843- if they remained in this area after marriage. That they named their Australian farm “Pollok Farm” suggests their connection was more than just a place where they stayed for a bit at the time they married..
The same church also had a congregation list for 1858 (after our Crawfords 1849 emmigration) and there are no Crawfords on that list. So I suspect they were a part of the congregation that doesn’t have any birth records but its just a suscpicion. Unless I can find a baptism list for that congregation that would hopefully show Georges birth in 1843. The church eventually joined the COS in 1956 and merged with a nearby congregation , which also seemingly is missing records- so im hoping to trying and hunt something down… somehow.
In my NRS visit I also looked at the Burghess roll for Pollokshaws. Burghess roll is as I understand it qualified tradespeople. Not quite knowing the “Warping” profession I was curious if it showed up there. There were no Crawfords listed there. I ran out of time but I came across reference to a Pollokshaws Weaving Society but the records for that weren’t online and were held in a collection offsite so couldn’t get to see those. Next time.