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Dear all,
I am a complete newbie to Channel Islands genealogy, and would be grateful for some help in finding a possible marriage or death for John Townsend Lowther on either Jersey or Guernsey. Lowther was born in Bath in 1793 to John (1758-1829) and Mary Walter (1759-1818), and was brother to Henry (1787-1795), Mary Walter Lowther (1792-1827), Betty (1794-1794), Charles James (1800-1866) and John (1802-1857). Bancrupcy proceedings list him in London in 1821, followed by Guernsey in 1826, listed as a 'merchant' and 'varnish manufacturer'. Lowther's father John moved with him to Guernsey, being buried in St Peter Port in 1829. Lowther then shows up in St Helier in '51, where he is listed as a widower followed by a  return to London, with him living in the West London Union Workhouse in '61 and dying in Holborn shortly after. I would like to identify his wife and see if they had any children.
Best wishes,
Francis

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Devon / marriage or death for Elizabeth Jarman b. 1803 Brampford Speke
« on: Thursday 21 August 25 19:52 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,
I would like to find a marriage and/or death record for Elizabeth Jarman, who was born in 1802 in Brampford Speke near Exeter. She was the daughter of William (1768-1842) and Amy Lowton (1772-1828), and the sister of Mary (1798-1854), Thomas (1805-?), Jane (1808-1879) and William (1811-1882).
Best wishes,
Francis

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Suffolk / Re: marriage or death for Susannah Crick b.1779 Bury St Edmunds
« on: Thursday 21 August 25 19:48 BST (UK)  »
Wonderful work. Thanks so much,
FG

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London and Middlesex / Re: A maiden name for Ann Priest (1767-1837)
« on: Thursday 21 August 25 10:17 BST (UK)  »
Have seen 'Collins' on ancestry too. No evidence attached to any of the trees though...

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Suffolk / marriage or death for Susannah Crick b.1779 Bury St Edmunds
« on: Wednesday 20 August 25 08:47 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,
Hope everyone is enjoying their summer. I would like to find a marriage or death certificate for Susannah Crick, born in 1779 in Bury St Edmunds. She was daughter to Philip Crick (1758-1813) and Susannah Mills (1759-1832, and sister to Philip (1778-1816), Elizabeth (1782-?), Charlotte (1784-?), Mary Ann (1787-?), Edmund (1790-), Frances Sophia (1792-1861) and George (1796-1838) All the children were baptised in 1797, ruling out a death in infancy.
Best wishes,
Francis

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London and Middlesex / A maiden name for Ann Priest (1767-1837)
« on: Wednesday 20 August 25 08:37 BST (UK)  »
Dear all,
Hope everyone is having a great summer. I would like to ask for some help to try and find a maiden name and marriage certificate for an ancestor of mine. Ann married John Priest (1769-1835) some time in the 1780s or 1790s. The couple lived in Marylebone and baptised James (1796-), Sarah (1796-), Charles (1798-1858). Mary Ann (1800-), Samuel (1803-1837), Maria (1806-1822) and George Henry (1812-1888). All these children were baptised in Marylebone. An additional two children, Edward and Sarah, both b. 1797 were baptised in Pancras; it is unclear whether we're dealing with the same family here. Ann died at Lambeth Walk in '37, with her husband dying nearby in Park Place, Lambeth, aslo in the parish of St Mary's. So far, the couple's wedding certificate is stubbornly elusive, but I would lik eto find some evidence of their wedding in order to get a maiden name for Ann.
Best wishes,
Francis

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Hi all,
Hope evryone's having a wonderful summer. I'd like to ask for some help in locating the marriage/deaths of three brothers born c. 1840 in Lambeth. It's a strange family, with people having chaned names a few times. The brothers in question are Thomas Watson b. 1834, Albert Watson b. 1841 and Charles Watson b. 1843. They are the extramarital children of Thomas Trinder (1787-1852) and Frances Watson nee Dodson (1804-).  Following the death of his wife Martha, Thomas cohabited with Frances Watson and has three children with her. Thomas and Frances can be seen on Lambeth rough settlement exams, about which more information can be found here: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=849100.0
Note that the children changed their names for an unknwn reason. Thomas is too old for a GRO registration, but 'Albert' was registered as
TRINDER, THOMAS  JAMES AUGUSTUS   
Mother's Maiden Surname: DODSON
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 259
and 'Charles' was registered as
TRINDER, CHARLES  HENRY ADOLPHUS THOMAS   
Mother's Maiden Surname: DODSON
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in LAMBETH
Frances and the three brothers can be found in '51: https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/8860/records/1927917?tid=115002760&pid=142318149498&ssrc=pt
In '71, with son Charles a painter
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7619/records/5570858?tid=115002760&pid=142318149498&ssrc=pt
Albert and Charles are living together in '61, Albert a potter's labourer and Charles a 'ILLEGIBLE board cutter'. Thomas can't be found with them.
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/8767/records/6254706?tid=115002760&pid=142318149588&ssrc=pt
Best wishes,
Francis

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Devon / Re: parents for Thomas and John Cox 1801-1850
« on: Thursday 29 May 25 23:41 BST (UK)  »
Mary Ann (who married John Cox) was born in Brixton in Devon as Mary Ann BENNEAR. I am certain this is her since the surname Bennear appears as a middle name in some of their grandchildren
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/62250/records/1794773?tid=&pid=&queryId=c99eb72c-3186-4f88-bb82-4d18cd8a00f6&_phsrc=zad50557&_phstart=successSource
This rasies the question as to whether this is the marriage. 'James Moxey' could be a mistranscription of John Cox
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/62250/records/1794773?tid=&pid=&queryId=c99eb72c-3186-4f88-bb82-4d18cd8a00f6&_phsrc=zad50557&_phstart=successSource
Update: James Moxey was her first husband. Here's the marriage with John Cox:
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/9852/records/4400617?tid=&pid=&queryId=0b6ec20b-4357-41db-b8f3-57e6f0481678&_phsrc=zad50564&_phstart=successSource
familysearch: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2C4-LNL?lang=pl
Anyone have access to see who the witnesses were?

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Devon / Re: parents for Thomas and John Cox 1801-1850
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 11:15 BST (UK)  »
Having looked at it again, I am not too confident that Thomas' brother John's wife had the maiden name Boon. This seems like a different family. Maybe if we found the marriage it might have some witnesses who were family. It would have happened in 1828 or so.

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