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Lincolnshire / Re: Mackinder
« on: Thursday 31 December 20 20:16 GMT (UK)  »
I have been able to track down the website of Robin Barry Beard a genealogist whom I relied on extensively for my previous Mackinder family trees (see #12). His is still very active and has posted his family trees (including an extensive one for Mackinder) on his own website http://what-a-family.co.uk. Access is free but you need to register with a username etc.
Robin Beard now shows James(b1546 in Aubourn) and Alice(about 1545) Mackinder as the parents of Alice(b 1562), Artemas(b 1563) and Robert(b 1575) Mackinder. He shows James' father to be another James Mackinder born about 1525. His only source I can see is "extracted probate records for Jacob Makender" but he doesn't include Jacob Mackinder anywhere in the tree.
I will try and contact Robin Beard more directly to understand his sources.   

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Lincolnshire / Re: Mackinder
« on: Sunday 27 December 20 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
The book "Long Road from Loch Awe" is indeed available to view or download on the link provided at #18, provided you are a member of FamilySearch. Many thanks arthurk, as the book contains much fascinating information.
The book quotes Scottish genealogists and historians to support the author's belief that there were Mackinders in the Loch Awe area in the 15th century. There seems little reason to doubt this, although no hard data is provided.
The book also states that Jacob (died 14 Feb 1606), married Alice in Aubourn, Lincs, and was the father of Artemas (1570-1624) and Robert (born 1575). The book's statement that Artemas and Robert were Jacob's sons seems to come from Jacob's Will. However, given wildwitch's reading of Jacob's Will (#10), perhaps this is open to significant doubt? 

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Lincolnshire / Re: Mackinder
« on: Wednesday 23 December 20 17:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Machis, for sharing this historic document. It explains the letter I received in 1986, unsolicited and purely on the basis of my surname. That letter referred to two Scottish brothers who each purchased 1000 acres of land in Lincolnshire in the 1700s - clearly this is straight from Sir Halford. Unfortunately the note in his Sir Halford's father's papers must have omitted at least four generations prior to John II & Elinor: ie John I (b 1673?), Joseph(b1621?), William(b1595?) and Artemas(b1575), who were all born in Lincolnshire.
The "Mack-an-Deoir" derivation of our surname is replicated in a "handwritten history" of the surname that I purchased in 1995. Do we think this is based purely the supposition of the Duke of Argyll? My handwritten history claims there are documents referring to a Colin Macindoyr in Fife c.1250. I also note the in the Lincolnshire Archives there is a book "Long Road from Loch Awe. A Mackinder Family History". Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy, and does it contain more substantial data on the Scottish connection? 

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Lincolnshire / Re: Mackinder
« on: Wednesday 23 December 20 00:10 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Wildwitch for the information on William Mackinder, my clockmaker. It makes the clock even more precious to me, now I know how closely related I am to its maker. I am descended from Charles' (William's grandfather) and James' younger brother Jonathan (1735-1825). It seems William had three daughters and no sons, so the clockmaking business must have died with him, although I have no date for his death.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Mackinder
« on: Monday 21 December 20 18:15 GMT (UK)  »
Wow! Thanks so very much wildwitch for sharing your extensive & painstaking research. It seems each piece of the jigsaw adds more intrigue without ever quite closing the circle! I will need to pour through it many times more, together with the conclusions of Machis, before I get close to understanding these early relationships.
Nine years ago, when I was researching the family tree for my late father, I relied for my 16th & 17th century data on a tree placed on an ancestry website by a Robin Beard, who I was never able to make contact with. I was unable to substantiate any of his data, and much now seems inaccurate. Robin had Artemas as 1575-1642, which, if I understand correctly, should be 1562-1624. He had Artemas' father as Jacob (1550-1606), which again seems false. In addition to the sons & daughters named in Artemas' Will, Robin also has recorded Artemas having an eldest son, John (b1591), who had three children, Elizabeth (b1611), Francis (b1611) and Thomas (b1614). Is this correct?
Does anyone know about the Mackinder clocksmiths of Spilsby, Lincolnshire? I have recently acquired a grandfather clock supposedly made by a William Mackinder in the 1840s, which has "Mackinder Spilsby" on the clock face. Initial searches suggest there was a family of three clocksmith Mackinders in Spilsby named Thomas, Townson and William. Hence I am guessing they could be Townson (1777-1836), his son William (b1805) and possibly Townson's uncle Thomas (1723-1779)? 

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Lincolnshire / Re: Mackinder
« on: Saturday 19 December 20 11:25 GMT (UK)  »
I was first alerted to having Scottish drovers as ancestors in a letter in 1986 from some Lincolnshire genealogists. It rang true because my grandparents had owned a butcher's shop in Skegness, Lincolnshire, in the first half of the 1900's. Also, according to the 1861 Census, my great, great grandfather, Wingate Mackinder, was a "Cattle Dealer" in Hundleby, Lincolnshire. However, the letter claimed that two Scottish droving brothers had settled in Lincolnshire in the 1700's. This is proved wrong by Artemas being born in Lincolnshire in 1575 and his father Jacob in 1550(?). It was delightful to see Artemas' Will, and also to know that he owned cattle.
Artemas is of special significance to me in being the link between Sir Halford Mackinder's branch of the family (through Artemas' son William) and mine (through Artemas' son James). I even have a grandson named after him!
My father, John Mackinder, grew up in Lincolnshire and was a Hurricane pilot in WW2. His WW2 memoirs are freely available at http://www.shades-of-blue-and-khaki.co.uk. Unfortunately the website is currently in its 2004 format, so is somewhat clunky. Each chapter can be downloaded individually to reveal the full text and photographs.

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