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Banffshire / Re: Stoneavaich - Glenconlas as it was known
« on: Monday 28 December 20 18:35 GMT (UK)  »
Inchrory - apologies I missed the date you had written by your Donald, we have many generations of Donalds in my family tree. Alexander and Elspet Gordon had a son Donald. I do not have the names of all the children between Alexander and Elspet Farquharson as still looking into that, only the immediate family that links my lines. So that was my error apologies, also forgot Gordon and Farquharson, I was tired. I have yet to confirm Duncans death details (Alexanders father) and I have the marriage between Duncan and Janet as 9 March 1791 but who knows were this information came from as I cannot find any records of it. The family history I have prior to Alexander and Elspet Gordon is limited with only a few dates and names but nothing else. Hope this explains better and apologies again for the error. Indiana apologies if I have opened a can of worms on a 'closed thread' :-(

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Banffshire / Re: Stoneavaich - Glenconlas as it was known
« on: Sunday 27 December 20 22:13 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Indiana.59 on Thursday 24 December 20 06:58 GMT (UK)
Quote from: xscot1312 on Monday 21 December 20 21:21 GMT (UK)

Hi again xscot1312

I just wondered as to what may have happened to the smaller children in 1834 after Elspet's death, as I could not find any 1841 census for this family . . .

BIRTHS:

DONALD SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 2/6/1818 - TOMINTOUL 1841 23

JOHN - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 10/4/1820 - TOMINTOUL 1841 21

JANE - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 9/4/1822 - TOMINTOUL 1841 19

ALEX SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 1/11/1824 - TOMINTOUL 1841 17

DUNCAN SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 15/8/1826 - TOMINTOUL 1841 15

SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 6/7/1828 - TOMINTOUL 1841 13

SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 2/5/1830 - TOMINTOUL 1841 11

JAMES SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 26/10/1832 - TOMINTOUL 1841 9

ELSPET SHAW - ALEXANDER SHAW/ELSPET GORDON - 4/12/1834 - TOMINTOUL 1841 7

We now know thanks to you that John Shaw set of on his Priesthood at the age of 13, but; what of the other children, as Alexander Shaw did not marry Isabella Munro until 1837 . . .

MARRIAGE: ALEXANDER SHAW/ISABELLA MUNRO - 3/12/1837 - KIRKMICHAEL

A copy of this marriage is needed as it quite clearly says - Kirkmichael, not Tomintoul - Kirkmichael, to see if any reference is made to who Isabella's Munro parents were, and a possible residence address . . .

Also, I wondered if this could be your Duncan Shaw in the 1841 census, he is a farm servant at Rynamarsh aged 14, residing with a Margaret Shaw, clip of the census shown below . . .

Indiana . . .

I think I now have all the information on Duncan Shaw, thanks for this, and yes he did die at a young age.  For information Donald Shaw he went on to have 6 children and died in 1899; John Shaw death is know; Jane possibly emigrated (still to confirm possible death 1900) ; Alexander married and died in 1875;  Elspet still unknown. I have found one 1841 census for part of this family. Although personally I will look at information around Isabella once I have more information on immediate family members - as I don't think Alexander and Isabella had children between them.   Where was the information on the seventh unnamed child found? As I have no record of this child.

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Banffshire / Re: Stoneavaich - Glenconlas as it was known
« on: Sunday 27 December 20 21:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Inchrory. I have the marriage as 9 March 1791 but can't find any saved information on this in my personal files. The first Janet information makes sense as Janet no 2 was definitely recorded with a John Gordon. More information is most welcome as I am just trying to piece things together and check the information I received. I too am a descended from Alexander Shaw and Elspet Farquharson's youngest son Donald. :-)

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Banffshire / Re: Stoneavaich - Glenconlas as it was known
« on: Monday 21 December 20 21:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Apologies for any confusion caused. And if my reply is now out of context as the original one I was typing vanished and I lost my train of thought. Any help and clarification is gratefully received as I have taken over this quest and have only been looking into it for a few months. I can confirm that I originally replied to a post placed by Indiana and it was kindly responded to. Duncan and Elspet are my family tree quests. If I come across information that differs from my relatives original research (started over 20 years ago) then I have noted this in my saved family tree. I can confirm that the image of Rev John Shaw is my relative - we have the original colour oil painting. b. 10 Apr. 1820 Banff, left home aged 13 to train at Blairs College, then to Paris and returned to Glasgow and was appointed priest at Rutherglen and was Canonised and d. 3 Nov. 1885, Rutherglen.  The information I have on Elspet Gordon (father John Gordon, mother Margaret Stuart) b. 18 Sep 1792  (maybe 1793 - 2 birth records filled 1 year apart) d. 4 Dec 1834 at childbirth (baby Elspet) in Stronavaich. She married Alexander on 7 April 1817.  As for Duncan - b. 21 Aug 1826 Gunner Royal Horse Artillery Discharged 1850 after amputation of right forearm. On census in 1851 aged 26.  Thanks to Indiana for further details on him which helped me find his service number - he only appeared on PRO and not on military searches. On the same census there are another 2 Duncan Shaw's listed in Edinburgh (father and son), however this rules out a headstone in Dalry Edinburgh as my relative (much to my disappointment - as I used to live opposite that cemetery many moons ago). Elspet (Jnr). became her brother Canon Shaw’s housekeeper, but no other information is known. I only know about 6 children so another child is interesting and will look further into this - thanks for that information, as I have said I am taking over from family members who are now unable to continue. And we did hold original family trees that were started over 100 years ago.  So I am looking for gaps and for documentation to pass onto my children so it is not lost.  Any information is most welcome. Thanks for all the help and time given.

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Banffshire / Re: SHAW'S of Tomintoul ~ Kirkmichael ~ Banffs ~ Aberdeenshire . . .
« on: Friday 18 December 20 19:47 GMT (UK)  »
Wow this is so interesting thanks for the information and the time taken to reply. I have taken the original research from a family member who started this over 20 years ago, although around 40 years ago there was an original family tree logged by each generation which I remember but was lost in a house move. I remember lots of information about job roles and outlaws !! My grandmother always stated we were related to the House of Stuart so I will always believe this. Third generation down from Alexander Shaw one family member moved to Fort William and had a son (my grandfather) who then moved to Edinburgh, so my immediate family is from Edinburgh. 
The earliest Alexander Shaw I know of is - Alexander ‘Alistair’ Shaw of ‘Inchrory’ possibly in Glen Avon, near Tomintoul, married  Elspet Farquharson. But I have yet to look further into this for dates etc.
Their daughter Janet Shaw married Duncan Shaw 9 March 1791 - child Alexander Shaw converted to Catholicism b.1785, Crathie (v near Balmoral Castle) d. 23 Apr 1865, Glenmullie married Elspet Gordon (b 18 Sep 1792 - although maybe 1793 as 2 birth records filled 1 year apart, her father was John Gordon) married on 7 April 1817. They had 7 children. Elspet died in childbirth with their last child. Father John Shaw was also one of their children - he had a very interesting life. my family have an original oil painting of him. According to later censuses Alexander's new wife was Isabella Munro but I cannot find any other information on her.  Not sure if I have a connection to the Easter Lair Shaws/Farquharsons also but still have lots more research to do. My mothers side of the family was so much simpler. Our Shaws are a complex bunch. Happy to share the family tree information I have, let me know if interested.

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Banffshire / Re: Stoneavaich - Glenconlas as it was known
« on: Friday 18 December 20 19:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the information and apologies for the disruption. I know that Duncan Shaw was a Gunner in the Royal Horse Artillery and discharged after amputation of his right forearm but no year given with this information (I have someone looking into this for me for a date). And that Alexander Shaw converted to Catholicism to marry Elspet. Alexander was press-ganged into the navy twice.  My father has his release papers still. Alexander remarried after Elspeth’s death - Isbella Munro, After the Navy he became a farmer in Stronavaich.  I have Alexanders father as Duncan Shaw (snr) son of Farquhar Shaw who married Janet Shaw from Kirkmichael Baniff ( diff Shaw line), Janet was born 26 Dec 1765 so maybe married about 1784 (my father thought), although I think I have found parish records to say marriage was 9 March 1791.
Janet Shaw's father was Alexander ‘Alistair’ Shaw of ‘Inchrory’ possibly in Glen Avon, near Tomintoul, married  Elspet Farquharson. I will leave you with this until you are settled again. No rush for me as I no longer live in the Uk and have limited internet access. Thank you for the information provided so far. Looking forward to finding out more. XScot

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The Lighter Side / Re: How did you find Rootschat?
« on: Friday 18 December 20 09:02 GMT (UK)  »
It was just an accident waiting to happen. After using various sites for family members but none on a particular relative I hoped to find, I typed their name directly into a search engine with year of death, bob's your uncle (or not) and here I arrived. Great find.

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Banffshire / Re: Stoneavaich - Glenconlas as it was known
« on: Thursday 17 December 20 19:23 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Indiana

Have you managed to find out any more information since your original post. I have a family tree from the Farquhar Shaw line through to the present day, however, I have gaps with information on Duncan Shaw, I only know his dob, and the immediate generation following Duncan's family line. Would like to find out information on Duncan Shaw born 1826 and his sister Elspet born 1834.  I can confirm that  the John Shaw information posted by Ev is correct for Rev Canon John Shaw (who was an older brother of Duncan and Elspet). Alexander Shaw also remarried so William Shaw may be from that marriage as I do not have any record of a son called William Shaw to Alexander and Elspet Gordon. Apologies for the revamp but for me this is a very interesting find. Best regards.

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Banffshire / Re: SHAW'S of Tomintoul ~ Kirkmichael ~ Banffs ~ Aberdeenshire . . .
« on: Thursday 17 December 20 18:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.
Apologies as this thread is old but I have just come across this site. I have some information on the Shaw's of Tomintoul that may help, I believe there are two Shaw lines (apologies if I am wrong). Alexander Shaw 1785 died in Glenmullie in 1865 and is from a different Shaw family line, he married Elspet Gordon in Stronavaich. I am related to this side of the Shaw line. I hope this helps.

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