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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 21:34 GMT (UK)  »
"From Hosp. suggests he was injured, and Hospitalised?, does this stack up??  Or, as an Electrician could he have been working there???"

Hospitalised seems more likely - does his Service Record have his Medical History with an entry corresponding to the From Hosp entry?


Tony

Hi Tony,
Under the Casualties, Wounds, Campaigns, Medals, Clasps, Decorations, Mentions, Etc. Section, it only lists his time if France, 5.10.18 to 27.11.19.  and,
His Medals BWM & VM.  No mention of any Wounds etc.

Under the "Medical Boards" Section, it records"Not stated F.S. 78, and separately "Cat. A".
I can see no other medical related comments.
Regards
Richard

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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Richard,
I have been scratching my head over the other abbreviation because I know that I have seen it elsewhere and I think I have the answer...
I reckon that it says 3/AM which I believe is Air Mechanic Class 3.
I am sure Tonepad will be along to confirm or deny my thoughts.
Regards, Paul

Hi Richard & Paul
Note the difference in Rank structure from 1918 to 1919:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_other_ranks


Tony

Hi Tony,
Many thanks for that link, No Promotion, just a realignment of ranks, but superbly explained.
Many thanks guys
Richard

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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 16:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Richard,
I have been scratching my head over the other abbreviation because I know that I have seen it elsewhere and I think I have the answer...
I reckon that it says 3/AM which I believe is Air Mechanic Class 3.
I am sure Tonepad will be along to confirm or deny my thoughts.
Regards, Paul

Hi Paul

That sounds quite a likely answer, as you said we can wait to see if Tony agrees.

Thanks, Regards
Richard

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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 16:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Guys,

You seem to be making good headway with my questions so far, so I have a couple more, that tend to follow on.

1. Movement dated 14.8.19, states "From Hosp", the previous one stated "To 3AD". ?????

From Hosp. suggests he was injured, and Hospitalised?, does this stack up??  Or, as an Electrician could he have been working there???


2.  On the Back page of his Service Record under "Time Forfeited", enlarged section attached.
It suggests to me that for some Misdemeanor, he was docked 2 days pay????.
But I don't understand the "Pay RW" in the Cause column.

Any suggestions please.

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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 16:14 GMT (UK)  »
I think that this is STHC as on the next line but with more flowery writing.

Regards, Paul

Hi Paul
See my reply to Tony on this subject.  I tend to agree with you on this.  But the Jury is still out.

Regards
Richard

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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 16:10 GMT (UK)  »


The top abbreviation on the 5. 5. 18 is baffling.
I read it as O. T. A. C.

What rank(s) did your man hold in the RAF?
What trade or role did he have in the RAF?


Tony

Hi Tony,

I tend to agree with Paul with 5.5.18, to it being STHC, as the next line is "Unit from Which", and states STHC.   ????

To your question what Rank/s did he hold. 
I have attached a small enlarged section to cover this.  I believe the second entry to be Re-classified to AC/2,  which I have assumed to be Aircraftsman 2nd Class.  However, I cannot read / understand the first entry.

To your question what Trade or Role did he have in the RAF. 
He was an Electrician in Civilian Life prior to RAF.  His Record, under Trade Proficiency, Lists Electrician.  I have therefore assumed that he continued with his Civilian Trade, which would make sense.

Regards Richard

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World War One / Re: WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Monday 06 December 21 13:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Tony
Many thanks for your response.  Also the link to the web site.

Regards
Richard

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World War One / WWI, RAF Service Record, Deciphering
« on: Sunday 05 December 21 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Can anyone assist me to decipher an RAF Service Record from WWI please.
I have 8 Movements, and 1 Enlistment item which I currently need help with.
I can, if required give details of the individual and where the record is located on line, if required.
 Have attached an enlarged view of the problem area below.

It may assist if I add that the Service Record shows he was awarded both the British War medal and the Victory Medal.
He was enlisted 17 April 1918, and Transferred to the RAF Reserve 30 December 1919.
His record states that he served in France from 5th October 1918 to 27th November 1919.

Regards
Richard

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Wigtownshire / Re: Lt Col Andrew McDowall (McDouall) of Logan
« on: Sunday 20 December 20 16:09 GMT (UK)  »
Just stumbled across this thread when searching for one of my ancesters.

I am a decendent of Mary McDouall (1779 - 1826), Mary was an illegitimate child of Andrew McDouall of Logan. He was reported to be a ladies man as there were other known illegitimate children such as Helen McDouall, born to Peggy Kennedy. She actually took Andrew to court over this and his promise of marriage and she was awarded 3000 pounds.

Some of the McDouall family history including the above is featured in the book 'John McDouall Stuart' by Mona Stuart Webster which was published in 1958. Mary McDouall married William Charles Stuart and they had many children including John McDouall Stuart, one of Australia's most notable explorers. There may be other historical sources relating to John McDoaull Stuart that discuss the McDouall lineage but the one mentioned above seems to be the best I've come across thus far.

Goodluck.

I too have just come across this thread.
I am researching soldiers of the Napoleonic era, around 1807.
I have a Captain Samuel McDouall / McDowall, who married a Miss Elizabeth Ann Tregent/
She was baptised at Easton, Hampshire 4 Jan 1788.
The family were residing at Weeley in Essex in 1807.
The brides father was Abraham James Tregent, and at the time of daughters marriage was a Deputy Barrack Master, it is assumed this was at Weeley Barracks, Essex.  He had been a former Royal Marine.
Samuel and Elizabeth had at least one known child, a son Andrew James McDouall, baptised 14 March 1808, All Saints Church, Dovercourt, Harwich, Essex.
Samuel's military history states that he retired 8th June 1809.
He died 1819 in the West Indies.

I know it is a very long shot, but does this Samuel McDouall fit in with anybody's Family Tree, as I would like to know how and why Samuel ended up in the West Indies.

Regards

Richard

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