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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Frances Mathew born 1771 in Edingale and her daughter Phoebe
« on: Monday 23 November 20 19:31 GMT (UK)  »
Further to my post a few minutes ago;
I just found an entry on Ancestry.co.uk as follows

Phoebe MACHER Derbyshire 9 July 1796 (Lullington);

July 9 Baptized Phoebe Spurious Daughter of Frances (looks like Milkshake ;D) but if you know what you're looking for you can make it out to be Matthews (the ws on the end is very faint).

Archaic meaning of Spurious (in offspring) illegitimate.

Regards,
Dave

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Frances Mathew born 1771 in Edingale and her daughter Phoebe
« on: Monday 23 November 20 19:02 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure if you are still researching this?

Martin Farnell was the eldest of four brothers that owned the Ashby-de-la-Zouch Bank (1790-1805).
Joseph died in 1802 and John between his will dated 13th April 1803, and probate on 25th August 1804. Martin was declared bankrupt the following March. Maybe these two deaths close together caused the problems in the Bank. Thomas was the fourth and youngest brother.

In Martin's will dated 15th November 1815, it states "until my adopted daughter Phoebe Farnell or usually so called (a child of my said wife before my marriage with her) shall attain the age of twenty one". Therefore she must have been born after 1794.

If you also check the Frances signature on their marriage Banns it clearly shows the surname as double T and S MATTHEWS.

Hope this helps



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Derbyshire / Re: Sue Brown's Derbyshire Marriage Index 1538-1837
« on: Saturday 21 November 20 22:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, not sure if you are still actively searching this, but I am researching the private banks of England, and your Martin was the senior partner of a bank in Ashby-de-la-Zouch, 1790-1805.
His father, also Martin had a brother Joseph, we'll call him Snr. Joseph Snr had at least three sons, John (1743-), Joseph Jnr (1747-1802) and Thomas (1752-1826). Martin Jnr and these three cousins were the partners of said bank.
Martin's will was dated 15th Nov 1815 and proved in London on 8th Oct 1816, which gives us an 11 month window for his death.

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