Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - DudelsackHogg

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 ... 13
1
Roxburghshire / Re: Vair Ker
« on: Sunday 20 October 24 10:49 BST (UK)  »
I also don’t see it indexed on Scotland’s People. However, it is on FamilySearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X111-SMQ
Document Information: Digital Folder Number 7, 8057643
Microfilm Number 1067952, 102302
Originating System ODM
Indexing Batch
C11807-2
"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X111-SMQ : 16 September 2021), Vair_ Ker, 1636.


The attached screenshot may also be of help. I believe it is from:
A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain Band 1 von History of the landed gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, Bernard Burke Harrison & Sons, 1900

It records Vair being born in July 1636.

The full book was available on the internet archive but that website is currently down so the link I have is no longer working. A later edition is available on google books but I don’t see a mention of Vair in this edition:

https://books.google.de/books?id=2v8-AQAAMAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&dq=the%20landed%20gentry&hl=de&pg=PA1022#v=onepage&q=redden&f=false

Perhaps you can contact Scotland's and enquire about the missing entry?

 

2
Roxburghshire / Re: Rev. Robert Hogg of Roxburgh
« on: Wednesday 31 July 24 21:26 BST (UK)  »
Not looked William Brown but the birthdate you found looks a little off.

Here’s what I have on Charlet:

Born 23rd July 1750 - Fasti
Christened 30th July 1750 803 10/248 Roxburgh

Married 1773 Fast + Roxburgh kirk session, Minutes (1722-1746, 1753-1760), Accounts (1722-1780), CH2/314/2 Page 159 attached.

Died 1836 – Monumental inscription in Roxburgh:
'Sacred to the memory of Charlotte Brown who departed this life 22.11.1836 aged 85(?) years relict of William Brown Esq. and third daughter of the Revd Robert Hogg.'


3
Roxburghshire / Re: Rev. Robert Hogg of Roxburgh
« on: Wednesday 10 May 23 10:26 BST (UK)  »
A PM is a personal message. There is a link on the rootschat homepage at the top of the page next to your username which should display any personal messages. You can also click on my messages and it will direct you to your rootschat inbox. I sent you a message with my email address so that I could forward you documents.

I like the reasoning and your thought process of Henry’s parents and think it’s a quite logical conclusion. I do remember seeing a Henry in the list of communicants. I need to revisit those Kirk Sessions with fresh eyes as it’s been a while since I last looked at them.

The Vair name does appear to come into the Hogg line from Vair Ker - the daughter of Sir Thomas Kerr. It’s possible to follow this line quite far back. 

Attaching an extract of the Landed Gentry:


For your info (and anyone else following) the Scotland’s People indexing of the wills mentioned previously is as follows:

HOGE, JOHN
22 / 11 / 1698
PORTIONER IN ROXBURGH
TESTAMENT DATIVE AND INVENTORY
PEEBLES COMMISSARY COURT
CC18/3/1

HOG, ROB[E]RT
2 / 2 / 1683
PORTIONER OF ROXBURGH
TESTAMENT DATIVE AND INVENTORY
PEEBLES COMMISSARY COURT
CC18/3/1

HOGG, ALEXANDER
29 / 4 / 1687
IN NEWTOUNE
TESTAMENT TESTAMENTAR AND INVENTORY
PEEBLES COMMISSARY COURT
CC18/3/1


4
Roxburghshire / Re: Rev. Robert Hogg of Roxburgh
« on: Monday 24 April 23 22:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Steve,

I am very happy to share the documents and certificates I’ve collected. I’ll send you a pm. I think you may have to post some more to be able to respond privately.

Were you able to confirm Janet and Thomas’s grandfather Hendrie is the son of William Hog and Bessie Jamison?

There are two surviving records for a Hendrie that fit:
HOG HENDRIE
WILLIAM HOG/ELIZABETH OGLE FR121 (FR121) M  19/07/1719
803
10 / 196
ROXBURGH

And:

HOG HENDRIE
WILLIAM HOG/BESSIE JAMISON FR132 (FR132) M 12/04/1724
803
10 / 207

I never found anything to back up either.

5
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Cause of death and M.S. of parent
« on: Wednesday 01 March 23 18:37 GMT (UK)  »
Maybe Meikle?

6
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Struggling with a few words
« on: Monday 23 January 23 12:08 GMT (UK)  »
My curiosity got the better of me and I had credits on SP, so decided to splash out on the 1811 KEENON, CATHERINE (Catholic Registers Births and Baptisms MP 62 1 1 161,
Glasgow, St Andrew's) to see how it's written.

KEENON, CATHERINE Parents: JOHN KEENON / CATHERINE MCGERAGLE.

Also on the page MCCANNA, MARY Parents: CHARLES MCCANNA / ROSE KERR

and KELLY, ROSE Parents: JOHN KELLY / HELEN DURAS

7
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Struggling with a few words
« on: Monday 23 January 23 08:12 GMT (UK)  »
I don’t strongly disagree with Sheenon but I’m not 100 percent convinced.

If it’s Sh, I don’t see the first line of the h going all the way down like we do in the h of  The child. It has the ornateness of the H in Hall but with a squiggle. I don’t see much of a similarity to the S of Andrew Scott, the S here is much more at an angle and looping but that connects to a small letter so is not overly helpful.

Still plumping for an ornate K and Keenon. Would be good to see more of the text though.

8
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Struggling with a few words
« on: Sunday 22 January 23 18:11 GMT (UK)  »
Keenon/Keenan?

I see the following Catholic marriage entry for a John Keenon on Scotland’s People:

KEENON
JOHN
COLLINS
ANN
29/10/1802
GLASGOW, ST ANDREW'S

And there is a baptism entry for Keenan on Scotland’s People:


KEENAN
JOHN
JOHN KEENAN / JANE LINDSAY
MALE
29/5/1826
11/2/1827
GLASGOW, ST ANDREW'S

Perhaps the father here would fit for your entry.

9
Roxburghshire / Re: Rev. Robert Hogg of Roxburgh
« on: Friday 08 July 22 16:11 BST (UK)  »
You’re right, I missed Helen out. She is in the tree I have. I was actually recording Kersmains references and Helen’s birth record does not seem to be here.

I’m more inclined to go for Robert Mein and Barbara Ker because Johne and Vair name one of their daughters Barbarie. I have nothing else to back this up.

I do have the Testament and Inventory of an Alexander Hogg who died in Newtoune in 1687. It mentions a Robert Mein and also ‘John Hogg portioner of Rox’ (later in the text ‘other portioner of Rox’) - and under that it says ‘Hogg his brother’. I’m having a hard time reading it but I think it does contain a lot of information on the family. Perhaps it’s a post for the deciphering page but it does run two pages of quite dense text.

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 ... 13