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Lancashire / Re: Can't find marriage after banns
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 16:13 BST (UK)  »
I was looking in 1871 too for the little girl to see who she was with but no luck.  Bit of an odd one isn't it.

When did she marry someone else?

I have her in 1871, married with children, think she married in 1868 to a Barrett. 
I'm starting to think the marriage just didn't happen for whatever reason.  The banns are in a Church of England church and I know they were roman catholic.  Mixed faith marriages did happen obviously, but it was rare (from my experience in family history) for the catholic to go to CofE, especially when it was a female. 

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find marriage after banns
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 16:01 BST (UK)  »
Do you have them in 1871 census?

No, I have her married to someone else (I know she was a widow when she married, or at least down as a widow)

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Lancashire / Re: Can't find marriage after banns
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 15:49 BST (UK)  »
I suppose it could be the surnames were transposed, I'm trying to find the actual marriage register for the church, not just the banns to see if I can find anything more. 
Or perhaps the wedding never took place. 
Could it be that they were read in another church too in a different parish (or faith?)
Thanks to all who have replied

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Lancashire / Can't find marriage after banns
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 15:07 BST (UK)  »
I have found the banns for a Margaret Rimmer and Thomas McGrath.  The church is down as St Johns Liverpool  on Ancestry.com and were read on 19th June, 26 June and 3 July 1864.  However, I can't find any record of the marriage.  There is no other notations on the banns, is this very common?
Thanks
Jill

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The Common Room / two birth registrations
« on: Saturday 12 October 24 17:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me.  My mum had 3 children before she married their father.  My half brothers were born 1961, 1962 and 1963.  The ones born in 1961 and 1963 have to birth registrations but not the middle one.  Can anyone shed light on this? 
My mum married their dad around 7 or 8 weeks after the last baby was born.
TIA

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: trying to find birth father
« on: Saturday 23 July 22 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Are you sure that you are half siblings - maybe the same age group,etc., as niece/nephew have the roughly the same cM range (1201- 2282) as half sibs.

Add - age range could be broad though.

The sibling I'm in touch with is 9 years older than me and older than my brothers I grew up with, so I would say he is more likely to be a half sibling than a nephew. 
The other potential sibling, well I don't know his age, but he matches with the other half sibling (who has no matches to my family other than myself on DNA matches) and he also pops up on some of the other cousins I'm in touch with as their cousin.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: trying to find birth father
« on: Saturday 23 July 22 16:11 BST (UK)  »
Some questions

1 The sibling that contacted you, did they have roughly an 1800cM match to you?

2 Are they unsure of their actual parentage?

3 What is the half sibling’s cM match with the other half sibling?

4 What is your cM match with the other half sibling?

5 Do they have any other full or half siblings or first cousins who have been or will take a DNA test?

6 Does any of the Shared Matches between you and your half sibling give any clues?

the sibling that contacted me has 1909cM shared with me and just over 1700 cM with the other half sibling.  I share 1435 with the other potential half sibling.
The sibling I'm in contact with grew up with rumours that the person who is down as his birth father isn't his birth father and is just awaiting full confirmation of this, but it's 99% certain the named father isn't the correct one.
Both my brother and the half sibling's brother have done tests and we are awaiting confirmation of the results, but neither I or my half sibling match any person from the parental line that we grew up with. 
We are in touch with a few distant cousins who are trying to help us, however they don't have much information.  Others who we have contacted don't know anything at all the potential half sibling we're searching for.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / trying to find birth father
« on: Friday 22 July 22 16:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
So a few months ago I discovered the person I thought was my birth father isn't.  I only discovered this when a half sibling, who I didn't know existed, contacted me on Ancestry.  We also have another half sibling showing up, but they are not answering any contact from us.
It turns out we are in someway connected to one particular family, we're not sure if it's paternal or if it's the half siblings mum who belongs to the family.
Has anyone got any advice as to what we can do to trace this line?
Thanks x

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Lancashire / Re: married in 2 churches
« on: Saturday 10 April 21 18:39 BST (UK)  »
The date on this extract is 4 Mar 1914, but if you look at the GRO indexes via FreeBMD (or the indexes at Lancashire BMD) you'll see that the marriage at St Peter's was registered in Dec qtr 1913. There is no civil registration corresponding to the 1914 ceremony.

I'm not an expert on RC marriages, but it seems that the official legal marriage took place in 1913 in a non-RC church (note "Mix. Matr." - 'mixed marriage'), and it was decided that there should be a further ceremony in an RC church in order to comply with their doctrine.
Thanks, it was the Mix Matr I was interested in as I'd not seen it before in other mixed marriage documentation before.  I believe in the Roman Catholic Church you aren't considered married unless the marriage took place in a Catholic church.  I suppose this would explain the 2nd marriage. 

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