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Hi,

I am new to RootsChat, and this is my first message.

I am searching on my German ancestors, who came from around Künzelsau, Württemberg, to Wakefield, Yorkshire, in the first half of the 19th century to work as ‘’Pork Butchers and Bacon Factors’’ (census quote).

These are Frederick, Louis (Ludwig) Roll (said to be born about 1820) and his wife Dorothea, born Fisher (said to be around 1815). They lived in Kirkgate, Wakefield, as shown in the 1851 and 1861 Wakefield census, and are shown to have been both naturalized English.

I am a descendant of one of their children, Frederick, Louis, Roll, who was born on November 29, 1852, in Wakefield (I have the birth certificate), and who married Alma Bagshaw in Gravesend, Kent, on November 22, 1878 (I have a copy of the marriage certificate).

I would be grateful for any help on the following topics:

. finding their date and place of birth in Germany, most likely around Künzelsau, Württemberg, and maybe identifying their German parents. .
. finding the time when they emigrated to Yorkshire, England.
. identifying the wife’s full identity: she is shown with a  maiden name of Dorothea Fisher, but the 1851 census shows a widowed ‘mother in law’ in the Family, listed as Rosina Hoffman (shown as born in about 1787 in Germany)…could this mean that Dorothea’s actual maiden name would have been Hoffman, and that she married a first time with a Mr. Fisher, who may have died early so that she re-married with Frederick, Louis, Roll?
. finding their date and place of death.
. finding the date when their son Frederick, Louis, Roll and his wife Alma Roll (born Bagshaw) left England to immigrate to Bordeaux, Aquitaine, France (and switching in the process from pork butcher and bacon factor to wine trader), where they died respectively in 1916 and 1914.

Thanking you for any guidance Rootschat members may provide,

Best regards,

LouRoll