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Pembrokeshire / Re: Lewis/Hancock Amroth
« on: Tuesday 05 March 19 10:18 GMT (UK)  »
Glad this was of interest.

I have checked some of my other notes. A David Lewis occupied ‘Killa Cottage and fields’ in 1842 (St Issells tithe). This amounted to 6 acres of arable and pasture – enough for 1 cow!

The Greville estate was the owner but no estate records survive from this period that I am aware of.

Jon

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Pembrokeshire / Re: Lewis/Hancock Amroth
« on: Monday 04 March 19 23:50 GMT (UK)  »
Good evening

Some years ago I spent many hours looking at correspondence files for the Narberth Board held at the National Archives at Kew, London. Amongst much stuff of local interest I came across the following that perhaps relates to your family. These are my notes:

TNA ref. MH 12/16655  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3291466
“1854
Letter from David Lewis in Kilgetty about the amount of relief he gets. His mother is a cripple and he has a small cottage with 1 cow on poor land. Can she get relief?
Later letter dated 17/7/1854 (doc ref #26828) from John Miles (clerk to Narberth Board) stating that the Guardians consider Lewis able to support his mother.”

A reminder of the tough times families lived through then and why Mary died at the Union. Her son couldn’t support after all by the looks of things.

Jon

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Hello Lillian

Here we are...

Directories
1822/3 (Pigot): Henry Jeffries, Fishmonger, High Street
Not listed in any others from around this period (eg c1798/1839).

Poll books
1796: not listed
1807: Henry Jeffries, fishmonger, St Albans (John Jeffries, labourer of Ware also listed)
1812: ditto (John not listed)
1818: ditto
1821: ditto (John Jeffries, labourer of White Swan, St Johns Lane, Smithfield [London?] also listed)
1831: ditto (John not listed)

1831 is the last poll book for which I have a transcription.

1818 Parish Map
I am a member of a history society in St Albans that has a copy of this map and also the associated reference book that lists the occupiers.

Jon

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If its of interest, I have extracts for Henry Jeffries from contemporary trade directories and poll books.

Moreover, based on a parish map dating to 1818, he was occupying premises on the north side of the High Street. (This was/is in the Abbey parish in the centre of the city).

Jon

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Pembrokeshire / Re: Tithe Map of St Issells
« on: Monday 06 July 15 21:16 BST (UK)  »
I don't have a copy of the St Issells tithe map to hand anymore - I gave mine away several years back. However, I noted on my transcript of the tithe award where the rough locations of each entry were.

Richard Griffiths was the tenant of the Picton Castle estate leasing 3 cottages with gardens close to Stepaside. My notes indicate that this was Plumtree Hall.

Interestingly a Jane Griffiths signed a lease with the Picton Castle estate on 10/1/1809 for the same at a rent of £4 p.a. for the term of three lives (ie the term equating to the longest surviving life). The three lives listed in the lease are Richard Griffiths, son aged 27; John Evans, grandson aged 5 and kinswoman Mary Griffiths aged 14. The lease also recorded that Jane was the daughter of Henry Griffiths. This lease is held at the National Library of Wales (NLW), in the Picton Castle collection ref. 1255.

There are copies of the tithe map at the National Archives in Kew, the Pembrokeshire Archives and also the NLW.

Jon

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Hertfordshire / Re: Lattimore's of St Albans
« on: Friday 27 September 13 00:26 BST (UK)  »
I can add some more to this from a transcript of the St Albans Corporation Freemen list.

In 1780 an Osborn Lattimore was made free on his father's copy. The father was Jeremiah, weaver.

Presumably the following is the relevant entry for the father in the same list:
1743: Jeremiah, victualler.

Jeremiah appears in the 1753 Land Tax schedule for Middle Ward, St Albans at 12s. He also appears in the St Peters parish poor rate assessment (PRA) in St Albans borough in 1760 & 1761.

As we don't have a complete run of the PRAs for all three main St Albans parishes, he might have slipped through the net before the next Jeremiah appears in 1780, again in St Peters parish.

As to Osborn Lattimore, one by his name appears in the 1801 Abbey parish PRA through until 1816, my last transcription.

Turning to poll books...presumably this is the same Osborn Lattimore as was made free in 1780 as he is entitled to vote:
1807: labourer, residence St Albans
1812: ditto
1818: ditto
1821: ditto
1831 - not listed - but a Jeremiah Lattimore, carpenter, St Albans is listed

As to trade directories...none listed from the right time but there is an Osborn Lattimore in Pigot's of 1839, a shopkeeper and dealer in sundries, residence George St.

Militia lists: I had a look here too and there's an entry for a Jeremiah Lattimore, wheeler, living in St Peters ward in 1785. The presence of "aged" against the entry indicates he is too old to go into the draw but this could still be your man. But why doesn't he appear in the earlier lists - which we have going back for most years to 1758? Was he living outside the town? The same question applies to Osborn.

Judging from the data you provided in your first email, the entries for Jeremiah and Osborn in the Freemen list and poll books appear to correlate nicely. The rest of my material is less certain.

Jon

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Pembrokeshire / Re: Baptist Chapel, Sardis
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 10:23 BST (UK)  »
Carole

Can you be more precise about the location of this chapel?

I am aware of two 'Sardis' chapels in the county, one at Burton (Baptists), the other near Saundersfoot (Independents). I assume you mean the former.

Jon

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Pembrokeshire / Re: Henry James
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 17:53 BST (UK)  »
Not sure this helps but the only James baptised in Reynoldston (now Reynalton) around this time was John James, son of Henry and Mary, 6 Aug 1809. The parents marry in Loveston 10 March 1809.

However, there is a baptism in the neighbouring parish of Loveston, 6 November 1808 for Henry James, son of Henry James (no mother's name mentioned). The father's residence is shown as Begelly. Somewhat bizarrely Findmypast.com have indexed this baptism under Begelly parish church, not Loveston. Why a Begelly resident would walk 2 miles or so across poor paths or longer by poor roads is now lost in time.

Jon

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Pembrokeshire / Re: William Thomas born St Issells 1788
« on: Thursday 06 September 12 10:17 BST (UK)  »
It is uncommon for people born in Begelly/St Issells parishes to record their place of birth in census returns as Tenby but not unique. Little more than an impoverished fishing village in the 1700s, Tenby was becoming a fashionable resort in the early 1800s so I could surmise that some people from the obscure and humble coalmining parishes of Begelly etc might want to record their origins in the more genteel Tenby.

With that caveat in mind you may want to look at the Tenby records. Borough records are held at the Tenby Museum, a source I have not explored. It may contain 'wonderful things'.

Griffith as a forename is rare in this area. I have not heard of Elizabeth being an alternative for Letitia etc.

Best of luck

Jon

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