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The Common Room / Re: family baptisms on same day
« on: Yesterday at 12:49 »
Slightly off topic but I recently came across a Victorian family of 6 kids, aged 0 to 14, all baptised on the same day.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:53 BST (UK) »
Jonwarrn, I didn't know of that resource.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:28 BST (UK) »
Maddy, could you clarify the 789/799 change? The GRO data says 789.
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Sorry, I was looking at the GRO reference you gave (though it is 10a/799, not 10a/789) and it has mother's maiden name as AIKMAN. Usually if a child is illegitimate it will not have a mmn given on the index.
Just looking further, I see that the other children in the family have mmn CROOKSTON, hence the confusion over Eliza Ellen's birth.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:26 BST (UK) »
I have wondered about getting the next record. How did you get that data? I'll wait and see what GRO suggest. If they offer me a refund, I'll probably do that.
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Zaph
Local indexes
Year 1889
Name WHITWORTH, Eliza Ellen
District SS/Jarrow.A
Register 114
Entry 2
Perhaps if you got a digital image of the birth entry (3) below from the GRO it would have the missing part on it?
Year 1889
Name NICHOLSON, William Burton
District SS/Jarrow.A
Register 114
Entry 3
Probably a crazy idea.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:24 BST (UK) »
I assume she was illegitimate as the father's name is the father of the other children in the house, which I very much hope wasn't the case. I can't find any connection to AIKMAN. And why give the name to just one? It's so odd.
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I'm not sure why you think the child was illegitimate? The GRO index clearly says the mmn was AIKMAN. It was common for multiple childen to be given the mother's maiden name as a middle name.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 11:01 BST (UK) »
I didn't understand the relevance of that.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 10:25 BST (UK) »
Softly, I had this detail
WHITWORTH, ELIZA ELLEN AIKMAN GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 789
Eliza is the grandmother of a friend. He believes that she was illegitimate, the father was possibly not known even to the mother. In 1891 she is listed as being one of the children of the household. We believe that she was actually born to the eldest child of the household. That eldest child (late teens) had the middle name AIKMAN (see above). She seems a likely mother. I ordered the certificate in the hope that the father might be named, but the name shown, William, is the father of the household. While it is possible that he and his daughter were the parents, we think that is unlikely.
I have added the certificate. I cannot guess at the mother's maiden name. Surely it was Whitworth, not just 'formerly'?
Column 7 refers to Ellen Aikman Whitworth, the older child of the household, born September quarter, 1871. That came from FreeBMD.
Zaph
WHITWORTH, ELIZA ELLEN AIKMAN GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 789
Eliza is the grandmother of a friend. He believes that she was illegitimate, the father was possibly not known even to the mother. In 1891 she is listed as being one of the children of the household. We believe that she was actually born to the eldest child of the household. That eldest child (late teens) had the middle name AIKMAN (see above). She seems a likely mother. I ordered the certificate in the hope that the father might be named, but the name shown, William, is the father of the household. While it is possible that he and his daughter were the parents, we think that is unlikely.
I have added the certificate. I cannot guess at the mother's maiden name. Surely it was Whitworth, not just 'formerly'?
Column 7 refers to Ellen Aikman Whitworth, the older child of the household, born September quarter, 1871. That came from FreeBMD.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Wednesday 17 September 25 21:58 BST (UK) »
Yes. Tomorrow.
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The Common Room / Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« on: Wednesday 17 September 25 15:06 BST (UK) »
Is there a way to work out what the subsequent record is? If they give me a refund I'd happily spend it on buying the next record.
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