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Antrim / Re: Does anyone here know of Wayne Dickey?
« on: Tuesday 21 June 22 00:11 BST (UK)  »
Gee thank you Linda - I'm sorry that I missed seeing your reply. He does sound like the Wayne I am looking for.

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Antrim / Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« on: Tuesday 19 April 22 01:31 BST (UK)  »
I think William GILLILAN (c1775-1857), son of Hugh GILLILAN (d. 1781) of Ballygarvey, was related to these Dickeys.  His wife was called Clara, and she might have been a daughter of Edward HUDSON and Elizabeth DICKEY mentioned at the top of this post:

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/dickey/2333/

I don’t have proof yet, and my evidence is a little circular, but bear with me...

In 1803, William GILLILAN was a witness in a lease from Thomas DICKEY of Hillhead to John CATHCART of Low Broughshane (probably a cousin of Gilliland’s).  In 1813, John CATHCART sold the lease (Bones’s Farm in Drumfane) to William GILLILAN, then of Ballygarvey.

From 1810-1819, William GILLILAN and Thomas DICKEY were churchwardens in Kirkinriola Parish Church.  In 1816-1817, William GILLILAN shows up in Loughbrickland (presumably something to do with Edward HUDSON junior who apparently died there in about 1817), as one of the assignees connected with the bankruptcy of James and Charles DICKEY.

By the end of 1817, William GILLILAN seems to have been back in Ballymena, but in 1820 he was of Millmount in Randalstown.  Had he bought the property out of bankruptcy?  In 1825 he was living in or near Castledawson, but by 1827 he was in financial difficulties of his own thanks to William TENNENT of Belfast calling in his loan (PRONI D1748/B/1/121).

Children of William GILLILAN and Clara [HUDSON/DICKEY???] identified so far:
-   Rev. Hugh GILLILAN (c1804-1858)
-   Edward Hudson GILLILAN (1806-1882)
-   Jane GILLILAN (1811-1852)
-   Clarissa GILLILAN (c1814-1892)
-   William GILLILAN (c1816-1833)
-   Adam Hudson GILLILAN (c1817-1893)
-   Julia GILLILAN
-   Thomas GILLILAN (c1819-1900)
-   Hercules Ellis GILLILAN (c1821-1875)
-   James Montgomery GILLILAN (1822-1898)
-   Catherine GILLILAN (d. 1885)
-   Eliza GILLILAN (d. 1885)
-   John GILLILAN (c1827-1849)

You can see the Hudson names in there, which is why I think Clara was from that family.  Plus the business connections to the Dickeys.  That is the circular argument bit, because I can’t be 100% sure that William GILLILAN of Ballygarvey is the same man who had all those children.  I’d like to find his marriage to be certain.

Hello Gilby - nice sleuthing there. When Charles and James became bankrupt, Charles's Millmount property was listed among the chattels to be sold (I have the newspaper clipping) so it may well have been picked up by William GILLILAN.
Adam and Charles Dickey did have a sister named Clara but I have no dates for her, and the name may be a  coincidence.

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Antrim / Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« on: Tuesday 19 April 22 01:09 BST (UK)  »
Jon,

Here’s a link to a marriage settlement in the Irish Register of Deeds, dated 1789, which mentions Adam Dickey of Hollybrook, plus some of his relatives. You might find it helpful.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-R93Z-7?i=462&cat=185720

Hi Elwyn! Apologies for the late reply but I'd put things aside over the past 6 months or so. Thank you for that link. It indeed announces the intended wedding between a John Todd and Mary Dickey, who I believe to be Adam Snr's sister.
I recently came across a Dickey tree on Ancestry.com that went back a further 8 generations (!) from my Adam Snr of Hollybrook. By way of names and some birth/death dates it 'fleshed out' Adam Snr's siblings and parents which is as far back as I need to go. And it gave Charles as a brother to Adam Snr so that was a nice resolution to my pesky question.
There was no supporting documentation for any individuals on that Dickey tree so I'm taking the relationships on good faith.
Best wishes to you!

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Antrim / Re: Does anyone here know of Wayne Dickey?
« on: Tuesday 18 August 20 23:48 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Bally... plenty for me to be going on with there :)

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Antrim / Re: Does anyone here know of Wayne Dickey?
« on: Tuesday 18 August 20 03:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rhel - no, none of those names appear among my 'Hollybrook Dickeys of Randalstown'. There were a whole mess of 'Cullbackey Dickeys' nearby, though I've not found a person that links the two families. Many random Dickey facts can be found in this thread ...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=828154.0

Are you a member of ancestry.com? I could put you in touch with a couple of members there who have extensive Dickey trees. I'm not paid up there at the moment so can't view those trees to check if any of your lot are present.

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Antrim / Re: Does anyone here know of Wayne Dickey?
« on: Tuesday 11 August 20 02:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Dinny.

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Antrim / Re: Does anyone here know of Wayne Dickey?
« on: Thursday 23 July 20 04:53 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Ray. He was an active member on Ancestry for years, then nada.

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Antrim / Does anyone here know of Wayne Dickey?
« on: Wednesday 22 July 20 02:34 BST (UK)  »
Wayne communicated with my uncle in New Zealand, who was also keen on Dickey genealogy, back in 2005. During early 2019 and my own research into the Randalstown Dickeys I tried contacting Wayne through ancestry.com, while noting that he had not signed in there for over a year. I fear he may have passed away. Can anyone confirm either way?

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Antrim / Re: Looking for information on Charles Dickey of Millmount
« on: Wednesday 17 June 20 04:45 BST (UK)  »
OK - returning to my original post question...

Is Charles Dickey of Millmount (CoM) (1761 - 1827) related by blood to the Hollybrook Dickeys, in particular to Adam Dickey Snr (d. 1806)

In that first post I posited some tantalizing clues... some admittedly tenuous, eg...

* the fact that a grandson of Adam Snr (Edward Dickey) was nominated to administer the will of a descendant of Com (Clara M McCreight) I now consider to be a very weak link between the two families. Possibly a 6 degrees of separation coincidence.

I'd like to focus on another fact; that Charles was a co-executor of Adam Snr's will. The only indication I have of this is from a newspaper public notice (which for copy-write reasons I cannot post here)

Dissolution of Cotton Spinning Partnership (1810)
19 February 1810
Randalstown, Antrim
Belfast Commercial Chronicle

The notice ends

"Jas & Chas Dickey
Exts late Adam Dickey"

Exts = Presumably  'Executors'.

The late Adam Dickey died 4 MARCH 1806 • Hollybrook, Randalstown. I've had no luck finding any will records with PRONI (via Pre-1858 Name-search) and National Archives will calendars only go back to 1858.
I'd like to corroborate that Charles was Adam Snr's executor. I know in itself it doesn't confirm  a familial link between the two men.

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