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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: PARIS FAMILY shairp connection
« on: Sunday 29 June 14 02:19 BST (UK)  »
Oh fab ! At last I can send something to you! :)
Isobel Hardie mother Margaret Dewar marr.John Hardie...no bdate for Margaret but John Hardie born 1665 alloa. His parents were Robert Hardie and Marion Campbell.
Isobel's siblings James b. 1688 and Margaret b.1692 all born Tilli country Clackmannan.
Isobel and James Paris children were all born in uphall but as I cannot find James parents or the marriage  I don't know at what point Isobel left clackmannon for uphall ....their  children were all born between 1718 and   1736.
Thomas  Shairp Paris was the child of James Paris (james and isobel hardies child) and Isobell Fleming born 12 may 1734 anstruther wester.
I noticed there was a Fleming mentioned in those estate records wondered if a connection....

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: PARIS FAMILY shairp connection
« on: Friday 27 June 14 01:49 BST (UK)  »
...time travel...smiles..shame we don't descend from h.g wells for this :) actually I was so inspired I randomly searched  Pares last night and found a couple of births in uphall that I hadn't seen before..jhone pareis christened 17 Feb 1635 father thomas  and girsall or maybe grissall pareis chr.11 April 1635 father Archibald. I wondered if grissall was a derivation of Giselle. I don't see an immediate connection to my line but I dare say possible. My earliest paris is James who married Isobel Hardie ( so your info actually gave me their residence ) .It is their son James that I descend from (born 1724 uphall ) who married Isobell Fleming .It is their youngest son Thomas (born 1773) that is my first discovered incident of Shairp middle name.However I descend from his brother John (born 1754) and this is the odd thing the shairp middle name continues in Johns child and continues through over 100 years...although it was his brother thomas who had the name....hence the mystery.
I would love to find the father of my James Paris who married Isobel Hardie ( born18  may 1694 tilli county clackmanan) but I had more luck finding her parents and grandparents which included a Dewar and a Campbell .Funnily enough by 1898 I have an Alexander Shairp Paris born in woolwich. It seems my great grandfather was the one who finally stopped using the name although it may have continued with one of his brothers line. If by any chance you have seen or can set me in the right direction to go back further with my Paris' that would be wonderful.It seems from those letters that they rented a fair amount of land..Bracelet Hall sounded interesting...have always been drawn to the Tudor/stuart period ...hoping my dates and info may help unravel this mystery.would love to hear more of your Alexander too...

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: PARIS FAMILY shairp connection
« on: Thursday 26 June 14 02:27 BST (UK)  »
Arcona! Amazing info! Thank you! These are my Paris line! I'm going to look at those dates..was there any suggestion of their livelihoods ? I know from arrival in London but no idea of their lives in Scotland.thank you so much ...can't wait to hear more....

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: PARIS FAMILY shairp connection
« on: Wednesday 25 June 14 02:15 BST (UK)  »
Can you share some examples? I'm struggling to see why the shairp middle name would continue through a family for 100 years..if the original child was illegitimate..paris is not a Scottish name...I can't find a clan..so where did they come from if not the obvious..France...? Would you mind sharing any paris family info you have gleaned?would be interesting to know what was happening in the shairp line around 1773 when thomas shairp paris was born...the other possibility is that thomas was not the first shairp paris...hoping you can shed a guiding light ...

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Parish lookup please Paris and Joyce
« on: Tuesday 24 June 14 03:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello ..I have Paris family records but they originate in Scotland then move to London..greenwich and woolwich later to Hampshire...perhaps if you can tell me your paris family Christian names in late 1800`s I could see if you link to my records.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: PARIS FAMILY shairp connection
« on: Tuesday 24 June 14 02:40 BST (UK)  »
Hello arcona..yes I wondered if this may be the case and also if the fact that a Shairp was advocate to the queen of Scots..could my Paris name have arrived in Scotland through a supporter or entourage? I have records of Paris family burials in Uphall...but would love to learn more of the possibilities.my earliest Paris is James married Isobel Hardie..children born in uphall from 1718(10 in all!) My first with the shairp middle name Thomas born 1773 from him there is one son every generation for 100 years...also always a john,thomas or walter. Would love to clear up the mystery.look forward to hearing from you.

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Gloucestershire / Re: stephen peevey / pevey bristol 1801
« on: Monday 30 October 06 02:19 GMT (UK)  »
hi grahame...yes we all have the same info...would be good to link your james with stephen...was james a builder/brickmaker?..sorry for late reply been working abroad...

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Lanarkshire / Re: Elder Family of Glasgow
« on: Saturday 06 May 06 00:03 BST (UK)  »
hi...well the jane mcallister i am looking for had siblings elizabeth ,mary and gordon. we think jane was born between 1915 and 1920 in lanarkshire and she was the oldest child ..so the marriage between  gertrude rudall and mc allister would be approx 1913 to 1915 hopefully.sadly my friend never knew his grandad mc allister and doesn't know his name....but for some reason thinks it may be george. could the rudall have been transcribed rudell?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Elder Family of Glasgow
« on: Friday 05 May 06 01:58 BST (UK)  »
hi russell :) thanks for replying...i'm trying to help my friends family research with this...gertrude rudall [my friends grandma]was born 1895 epsom..the story is she married a mc allister [this is the spelling on janes marriage cert] in lanarkshire.jane mcallister was my friends mother .she married 3 times all in england. i  understand jane had a sister elizabeth too...will check with my friend any other names relevent.
i think i may have to get janes 1st marriage cert to obtain her fathers christian name....thank you again for looking. ;)

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