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Carmarthenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Rees GEORGE 1831-1851
« on: Saturday 12 December 20 07:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Byron,

I've sent you a personal message.  We are quite closely related, my dad (Walter Hornby) used to talk of Milton quite a lot.

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Carmarthenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Rees GEORGE 1831-1851
« on: Saturday 12 December 20 06:46 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks cousin Byron.  This is excellent!  I'll have a look at the link as I've not seen it before.

Rees is my great grandfather

Rees' wife's name is Margaret Anson Mander.  I've seen it spelt Mauder as well. The Manders were originally Maunders in the 1700s

Margaret's father is Francis Mander, a Sgt in the Royal Artillery.   Rees was also in the Royal Artillery as a Master Gunner.

Any family info you have would be most welcome.  I have some, but a lot of it disappeared from family memory when Rees Jr. emigrated over here to Australia.

Rees (1831-1881), to Rees (1864-1955) emigrated to Australia in 1885, to Walter (1897-1987), to David (1951-present).


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My 6x Scottish grandparents were married irregularly but eventually in 1759 went to a church to be married. 

The Doddington Church record reads:
 'Alexander Greig and Helen Aitchinson, irregularly married, were rebuked and declared married persons and gave to the poor'  The amount given to the poor was recorded as one shilling and sixpence.

The irregular marriage required two witnesses and was done verbally.  It was usually a Blacksmith and his assistant or wife, as the witnesses had to be Scottish citizens, and only Scottish citizens could be Blacksmiths as they could make weapons of war, swords, shoe horses, etc.

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Owen LEWIS, Abt. 1800, Ludlow, Shropshire
« on: Wednesday 13 May 20 06:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Trish, that certainly looks like George Lewis in Soho in 1841.  I've added that to my tree.

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Owen LEWIS, Abt. 1800, Ludlow, Shropshire
« on: Wednesday 13 May 20 06:46 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Kay, I didn't have the age of Owen Lewis, and yes, 80 would be too old. In that case I doubt that he is George Lewis' father.

I'm starting to wonder if my family history is wrong about Shropshire.   There is another George Lewis with wife Mary A, who seem to have been in Shropshire, but the father definitely isn't Owen.

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Owen LEWIS, Abt. 1800, Ludlow, Shropshire
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 10:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kay and Brentor boy,

George Lewis married in 1852 and emigrated to Melbourne, Australia on 5 Nov 1856 with his wife and three children, Emma Jane, William Owen and Frederick.  A further three children were born in Australia.

Yes, he's a tailor on his 1852 marriage certificate. On Frederick's 1855 birth cert he's a barman.  George died in Adelaide, Australia on 24 Oct 1865, age 41.  He was a labourer and his family promptly ended up in the Destitute Asylum.  He didn't return to England at any stage.

George's marriage certificate shows his father as Owen Lewis, gardener. 

I've a family history book 'The family of George Lewis and Mary Anne Lawrence' by Pam Flynn (nee Lewis), 2001.  Pam was a family history enthusiast and suggests that Owen was born in Ludlow but unfortunately doesn't provide further information. I have found a death of an Owen Lewis in Dec 1841.

So Owen is currently a bit of a mystery.

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Owen LEWIS, Abt. 1800, Ludlow, Shropshire
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 06:58 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for date of birth, death, wife, children, etc  of Owen LEWIS. 

Owen (occupation, gardener) had a son, George LEWIS, born in 1824 at Ludlow.  This would mean that Owen was born around 1800.

George Lewis married Mary Ann Lawrence in 1852 at Bethnal Green, Middlesex and the family tree from then onward is well known.

However, can't find anything about his father, Owen, or Owen's wife, or other children.

Any help would be much appreciated!  thanks
David

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Carmarthenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Rees GEORGE 1831-1851
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 06:42 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Carole and osprey for replying so quickly and welcoming me.  The wealth of information you have both provided is simply excellent.  It's filled in the gaps and provided other leads for me to hunt down from far-off Australia.

Again, thanks a lot!
David


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Carmarthenshire Lookup Requests / Rees GEORGE 1831-1851
« on: Saturday 09 May 20 10:48 BST (UK)  »
I've reached a dead end researching this direct ancestor's parents and siblings.

Rees GEORGE:
Born March? 1831 at Laugharne, Llansaderimon, Carmarthenshire.
1852 joined the Royal Artillery and served for 21 years. Discharged 14 October 1873.
Married Margaret Anson MANDER 24 July 1862 at Southhampton, Hampshire.
Died 10 June 1881 at Epsom, Surrey.

Children of Rees and Margaret
Rees George 1864-1955
Francis George 1866-1866
Margaret George 1868-1960
Annie George 1871-1968

I have a copy of Rees' marriage certificate that shows Rees' father as James (fairly sure, definitely starts with Ja and ends with s), occupation Farmer.  However, can't find anything about James George or family.

Any help really appreciated!
David

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