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Northamptonshire / Re: Thomas Throssell - Convict sent to Van Diemen's Land 1820
« on: Friday 12 March 21 01:31 GMT (UK)  »
To clarify, this is regarding Charlotte b 1795 at Newton,

"Charlotte Throssell was born in 1795, her father, Thomas, was 25, and her mother, Mary (nee Fryer), was 25. She married (shepherd) John Sharp and they had eight children together. She also had one son from another relationship. She died in 1853 in Oundle, Northamptonshire, at the age of 58, and was buried in Barnwell, Northamptonshire.Present at her wedding was another sister Sofia."

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Northamptonshire / Re: Thomas Throssell - Convict sent to Van Diemen's Land 1820
« on: Thursday 11 March 21 15:27 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Spinning Jenny
I'm so sorry not to have replied to this at the time. I'm afraid it just got missed.

If you still want this information do please let me know. My brother has, I think published a reasonable account of our researches on Ancestry and I can enquire if he is OK to share that.

Mike

PS: the answer as regards sites, all of which have been used, may lie in the extraordinary range of spellings the name seems to attract: from Throttle to Therassell to Throffell. I've collected 17, but feel sure there are yet more.

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Northamptonshire / Re: Thomas Throssell - Convict sent to Van Diemen's Land 1820
« on: Monday 06 April 20 17:53 BST (UK)  »
Martha Mawby/Mawbey

Thomas's mum had no other children

SUMMARY OF A SHORT LIFE

Baptised into Anglican faith 15th March 1747, in Broughton home of her father William and mother Elizabeth

Married Daniel Throssell, 16th October 1769 in Broughton. His parish is however given as Sawtree (Sawtry Hunts)

1770 she has given birth to her first child, Thomas (the Felon, as it turns out). Thomas is to live an unusually long hard life. Unlike poor Martha whose time is short. Thomas is baptised as Broughton on February 4th 1770, rather less than 9 months subsequent to their wedding.

On December the 8th she is interred at St Andrews Sawtry (see image). The Church no longer stands, but a photograph of it from the late C19th century exists. The 'burying ground' remains. In 1806 Daniel's own name appears in the list of burials.

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Northamptonshire / Re: Thomas Throssell - Convict sent to Van Diemen's Land 1820
« on: Wednesday 01 April 20 17:04 BST (UK)  »
Matthew double and triple thanks!

I had read the account some years ago but lost it when a computer failed. So extremely grateful for your recovering it and adding the newspaper account as well. Absolutely excellent.

Then you trumped that. The certificate says Throstle, the common spelling of the 'dialect' term for a songthrush replicated in Throstle's Nest farms across the north and midlands. I had never seen the certificate before an am immensely grateful. The cause of this pauper's death gave me some trouble: "phtisis": an archaic medical term for Tubercolosis it seems.

The songthrush/throstle/mavis is, of course legendary for its longevity (qv Tolkien: "long lived and magical race". Thomas certainly had lived to his name!

Thomas Hardy wrote:
"An aged thrush, frail, gaunt, and small
    In blast-beruffled plume,
Had chosen thus to fling his soul
    Upon the growing gloom."

Apposite.


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Northamptonshire / Re: Thomas Throssell - Convict sent to Van Diemen's Land 1820
« on: Tuesday 31 March 20 22:26 BST (UK)  »
Interesting fellow. The family trade was shoemaking, but the industry went into deep depression as the wars came to an end. He was born in Broughton, most of the family deriving from Molesworth, Bythorn and Titchmarsh. Mary Fryer/Friar was from Titchmarsh, and eventually was buried there in 1847.

The John Sharman mentioned above was the principle witness, but unfortunately died 22 days before the hearing. He was convicted of theft and the Assize record notes the sentence of death. This was 'commuted' to a seven year transportation, which might seem a little harsh on a fifty year old man. He (with four other 'felons' from the assize) were conducted to the prison hulk Bellerophon, a battleship formerly famous as the ship that conveyed Napoleon from France after Waterloo.

His prison records show he occasionally missed Church muster, and once was found drunk and disorderly. In all a model prisoner. He got his ticket in 1828, but clearly remained.

1838: "Thomas Throssell - ship Caledonia, admitted to New Norfolk Colonial Hospital in February with debilitas" He was then about 68, and has been in VDL about 17 years.

He was (extraordinarily) still there when the Hospital was closed to inmates in 1855. He was 84 by then, and after a government level correspondence about what should happen to the prisoners he (and others) were ordered onto a ship for transport. The prisoners were, it seems kept on deck due to overcrowding despite the season. I can find no trace of him thereafter.

His son Michael died in Perth the very same year, where he was then a Police Inspector (having arrived on the Scindian Prison Guard a few years earlier). Michael's son George, Thomas's own grandson, became the Premier of Western Australia in 1901. His great grandson was Hugo Throssell (VC) and his great great grandson was Ric Throssell (the Spy was wasn't).


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