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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Agnes Mary "Oonagh" Shanley Toffolo
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 19:47 BST (UK)  »
I can’t help with working that out sorry. I know with my DNA, some matches seem to have a closer match than others although the relationship is the same.
Have you done a paper trail with the Shanleys?
Where are your Shanleys from?
Who is your grandmother?

I have done as much of a paper trail as I can with the Shanleys.  My great grandmother is Mary Frances Shanley, from either County Roscommon or Longford - depending on the document.  There is also a DNA connection to Shanleys in Burnley, Lancashire, United Kingdom.  My 2nd cousin (our grandparents are siblings) has a greater cM to them than I do when looking at Shanley.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Agnes Mary "Oonagh" Shanley Toffolo
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 17:28 BST (UK)  »
There are online obituaries about her and a Penguin book has been published.
Are you looking for information?
There is a birth in Mohill, 1929. Her mother’s name McGurren.
Does that fit with your research?

Marriage of her parents
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09883/5590313.pdf

Yes, this does fit with my research.  But I cannot find a DNA match for her - strictly documentation.  My DNA was completed on Ancestry and my Dad did YDNA on FTDNA before he died.  Shanley is his grandmother so not sure if his DNA would do me any good since it's the male lineage he was interested in (long story, but in a nutshell - his father died when he was 4.  father abandoned 1st family, "married" my grandmother after changing his name (even though his family knew what his new name was and where he lived and that he had a son)... so my Dad used the Y DNA test to "prove" John Bertrim Buchanan was, in fact, his father.  100% match with male cousin.

Anyway - I don't think I can use his DNA matches to narrow down a connection so I'm relying on mine.  I know you get 50% of your DNA from each parent, but you don't know which 50% of their DNA you are getting.  You can get 75% of the male lineage and 25% of the female lineage or whatever % ... I just don't know enough about DNA and matches for any of it to really make sense...

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Agnes Mary "Oonagh" Shanley Toffolo
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 17:19 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to rootschat kcshatto.

You have posted this on the DNA board, but it is not clear what you would like help with.

Is it related to your DNA matches connected to Agnes?

If your query is not DNA related and you have posted in the wrong place you can ask a moderator to move the thread to a more appropriate board.

so sorry, I was so excited I forgot to ask my question. 

I've done my DNA via Ancestry but cannot find a DNA match to her.  Is it possible to have a connection via documentation and sources WITHOUT having a DNA connection? 

Her brother, Kevin Patrick, died as a child and the only other sibling I can find is Nicholas, died 1999, but I cannot find any spouse or children for him. 

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Roscommon / Re: Shanley and Bohannon
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 17:13 BST (UK)  »
If you scroll down to the dark brown box on any RootsChat page, you will see under 'Your Tools' the heading Surname Interests.


His brother, Cornelius, was born in Strokestown in 1881....
 

Cornelius Bohannon was born 12 January 1882 at Slattaghmore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02792/2024962.pdf


Edited to Add:
Slattagh More townland
https://www.townlands.ie/roscommon/ballintober-north/kilglass/kilglass-south/slattagh-more/

Yes, that is him.  I meant 1882.  I have the civil record and will definitely look at the link on the Slattagh More link.  Thank you so much!

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Roscommon / Re: Shanley and Bohannon
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 17:11 BST (UK)  »
There is a Frank Bohanin in Durham in 1871 4963/9/13

He is transcribed as 24 yrs old -born about 1847 and is a Labourer boarding with others.

Thanks. I'll take a look - I have his birthday as 1855 and in 1877 documentation and 1881 census, he is working as a coal miner.  The marriage certificate has fathers John as general labourer and Cornelius Shanley (deceased) as mason.  I will go back and research the 1871 census in Durham (Langley Moore) to see what I can find.  Thank you again for your assistance.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Agnes Mary "Oonagh" Shanley Toffolo
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 02:17 BST (UK)  »
If I have done my research correctly, with accurate documentation and sources, Agnes Mary "Oonagh" Shanley Toffolo is my 3rd cousin 1x removed.  She was a nun, who was permitted to leave the convent due to health reasons and who became spiritual advisor to Princess Diana.  The system will not allow me to attach a photo of Oonagh, Joseph (her husband) and Princess Diana that I received from another Shanley relative.  It is truly a special photograph. 

Oonagh was born in County Leitrim in 1929.

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Roscommon / Re: Shanley and Bohannon
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 01:54 BST (UK)  »
I have no idea where the "tools" is located, I'm still trying to learn this site.  Francis Bohannon married Mary Frances Shanley in Durham, England in 1877.  Both are from the Roscommon/Longford areas.  Mary's father is Cornelius (c 1810 - 1877) and Frances' is John (c 1810 - 1883).  My grandfather, John Bohannon is the son of Frances and Mary, born 1878 in Durham, England.  His brother, Cornelius, was born in Strokestown in 1881 and the family immigrated to the US, in 1883. 

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Roscommon / Shanley and Bohannon
« on: Wednesday 07 September 22 03:54 BST (UK)  »
Does anybody have any information on. SHANLEY'S (Cornelius) and/or BOHANNON'S (Frances) in and around Strokestown, early to mid 1800s?

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Fife / Re: looking for Ramsay family from Kilconquhar
« on: Monday 23 March 20 01:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hello.  I'm new to this site and am also researching Ramsay.  I have an Agnes Ramsay (daughter of William and Agnes Miller), born 1735 and married George Barclay.  They had a son, George Barclay, born 1755 in Kilconquhar, Fife, Scotland. 

Any information on Agnes, her parents and/or her husband and children is greatly appreciated!

Sincerely,
Cindy Shatto

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