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Ireland / Re: Advice on claim to Irish Peerage
« on: Saturday 04 July 20 23:17 BST (UK)  »

I didn't find your tone dismissive at all.
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Skoosh's comments are less so now, after being edited lol.

Not a huge deal and not trying to start a fight. I dont know who is friends with whom already or anything, so maybe there is a context to that ribbing tone that I don't have.

My only point is that if people come to a forum to learn something they shouldn't be made fun of - especially using cliché digs, like being called inauthentic for simply wondering about modern rules for succession or assumption of titles.

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Ireland / Re: Advice on claim to Irish Peerage
« on: Friday 03 July 20 12:42 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Skoosh on Friday 03 July 20 08:15 BST (UK)
"succession to one is due to the terms of the patent granted at the time."

Since the original grant of a title, there have been literally dozens of changes to the occasions and methods by which it could be conferred or transferred to another individual, particularly in the modern era (since 1990). Your post is partially correct; however, your tone indicates that you know everything about it and therefore have the right to be dismissive of the OP. I believe you are in error.

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Ireland / Re: Advice on claim to Irish Peerage
« on: Thursday 02 July 20 15:20 BST (UK)  »
Ruskie

Would like to discuss this with you if you would like.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: We understand most of main body; however signature and place are a mystery
« on: Tuesday 14 April 20 19:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Daniel Mathew Foley on Monday 30 March 20 04:38 BST (UK)
Quote from: zoe_Wiccalo on Monday 30 March 20 04:07 BST (UK)


Thanks Zoe! That makes it a bit easier to read, especially that fourth line with the one word kind of blanked out

I think the missing portion says

a very superior workman,

"he understands architecture"

and i believe him....

Which makes the A in architecture the same as what we were thinking is a C in "Castle Park"

So Im not sure it says Castle Park for the place after all.


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: We understand most of main body; however signature and place are a mystery
« on: Tuesday 14 April 20 17:30 BST (UK)  »
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Here's an example of an elaborate "P" to help potential identification of the earlier "P" in what we propose is "Park"

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: We understand most of main body; however signature and place are a mystery
« on: Monday 30 March 20 04:38 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: zoe_Wiccalo on Monday 30 March 20 04:07 BST (UK)


Thanks Zoe! That makes it a bit easier to read, especially that fourth line with the one word kind of blanked out

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: We understand most of main body; however signature and place are a mystery
« on: Sunday 29 March 20 15:31 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: arthurk on Sunday 29 March 20 11:40 BST (UK)
A signature and address are the kind of things that people write out repeatedly. As such the letter forms can easily become corrupted, but might also have a few extra flourishes. In view of that, and after a bit of research, I think it could be Lawrence (abbreviated?) Creagh of Castle Park.

As has been pointed out, Castle Park is an estate and townland in Golden, and in that period it was owned by a family named Creagh. The two forenames I've found are Richard and Lawrence; this looks to me more like the latter. See the following pages:

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=3333

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/family-show.jsp?id=3335

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/property-show.jsp?id=4121

Wow this is incredible. Let me take a look and get back with you. Thanks!

I've written to the descendants of the Creaghe family, who maintain a historical association, to see if they have record of his writing; also, in the Dublin Archives:

The Registered Papers of the Chief Secretary's Office: National Archives: CSO/RP (search results)

These papers have several letters of Laurence Creaghe - should be obvious if it is his writing.

Now when will I be able to get to Dublin..... lol Anyone live there?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: We understand most of main body; however signature and place are a mystery
« on: Saturday 28 March 20 18:41 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: horselydown86 on Saturday 28 March 20 16:08 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Daniel Mathew Foley on Saturday 28 March 20 14:42 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Mckha489 on Wednesday 25 March 20 05:00 GMT (UK)
The two words that look like Martha Park

The first letter of the second word must be an I.  At least that’s how I was taught to do capital I in the olden days.

Do you mean the first letter of the second word of what I assume to be the signature? The one with a wide underscript swinging to the reader's right, and comes back again to the second letter?

Any idea of what that second letter would be?

If I may take the liberty of first answering for Mckha, I think his or her post refers to the letter in Signature_Section_Initial.jpg as attached.

If I read you correctly, you are referring to the section in Signature_Flourish.jpg as attached.

My interpretation of this latter section is that the forename ends with a superscript contraction as was common in this period.  Common examples are Jno, Jas & Thos.

I think this one ends with a y, and the underscript (as you describe it) is a flourish, continuing from the tail of that y and joining onto the first letter of the surname - which is probably T.

Finally, regarding the letter in Signature_Section_Initial.jpg, it doesn't look like the I in what I think is ...I believe him... in the main text above.

Is your idea of the letter P in Signature_Section_Initial.jpg that it would have looked like A or B example here?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: We understand most of main body; however signature and place are a mystery
« on: Saturday 28 March 20 18:31 GMT (UK)  »
I posted the same question on Reddit. Here are some thoughts about the text from that string

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/comments/fh8ylv/can_anyone_read_this_writing_ireland_1838/

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