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Family History Beginners Board / Re: What does this mean in the 1939 census?
« on: Thursday 29 June 23 11:33 BST (UK) »
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Family History Beginners Board / What does this mean in the 1939 census?
« on: Thursday 29 June 23 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hello all,
If you look at the picture I have added it shows a red line going through an entry for a Florence Ingram, it also has the innitials "IC" written in the address column.
Does anyone know what this means?
Regards
Mick Bird
If you look at the picture I have added it shows a red line going through an entry for a Florence Ingram, it also has the innitials "IC" written in the address column.
Does anyone know what this means?
Regards
Mick Bird
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need a little help please with this 1704 will
« on: Monday 09 January 23 16:14 GMT (UK) »It's a bit small, but I found it among PCC wills proved 1704 and was able to enlarge it.
The name looks like Harwink Clarke Cremer. Harwink is a name I haven't come across, and as this is a registered copy, possibly a clerk's guess at something he couldn't read in the original.
Even enlarged I struggled with the wording at the end, but I think it relates to the named executrix (Ann Pygott, wife of the testator) not having fully completed the administration of the estate and a fresh grant being made. The name Thomas Cremer is in there, possibly as the new administrator. I couldn't tell whether Ann had failed to act because she died, or because (possibly) she remarried and wanted her new husband to act for her - she is named as Ann Cremer al[ia]s Pygott. Hopefully someone else will be able to do a bit better.
I think you are on to something here.
Thomas Cremer marries Anne Pygot sometime between 1703 and 1706, she doesn't want to deal with the will so leaves it to her new husband Thomas Cremer hence she is known as Ann Cremer alias Pygot.
She dies 12.3.1706 and Thomas Cremer of Lenna Regis and Maria Townshend of Tacolneston are married at Mulbarton 29th Oct 1706. Her parents are George Townshend and Mary Baldock.
Sounds plausible.
Thankyou for your help. Just need to find this Harwink Clarke Cremer.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need a little help please with this 1704 will
« on: Monday 09 January 23 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks guys for trying.
Here's what I have:
Robert Pygot married Ann Hardcastle St Nicholas, Kings Lynn on the 19.6.1672
Robert Pygot buried 19.3.1703 at St Nicholas, King's Lynn, Norfolk.
Robert Pygot made a will which was proved 1704
In the will the witness is Thomas Cremer and he mentions a Harwink Clarke Cremer.
Ann Cremer/Pygot/Hardcastle dies 12.3.1706 and leaves a gravestone which says: Here lyeth the body of Anne wife of Thomas Cremer gent sometime widow and relict of Robert Pygot gent, she died 12.3.1706
So I'm assuming sometime between the death of Robert Pygot in Mar 1703 and Ann Pygot in Mar 1706 she marries Thomas Cremer of Kings Lynn.
Tried searching for this marriage to no avail.
I have uploaded a larger version I hope.
Here's what I have:
Robert Pygot married Ann Hardcastle St Nicholas, Kings Lynn on the 19.6.1672
Robert Pygot buried 19.3.1703 at St Nicholas, King's Lynn, Norfolk.
Robert Pygot made a will which was proved 1704
In the will the witness is Thomas Cremer and he mentions a Harwink Clarke Cremer.
Ann Cremer/Pygot/Hardcastle dies 12.3.1706 and leaves a gravestone which says: Here lyeth the body of Anne wife of Thomas Cremer gent sometime widow and relict of Robert Pygot gent, she died 12.3.1706
So I'm assuming sometime between the death of Robert Pygot in Mar 1703 and Ann Pygot in Mar 1706 she marries Thomas Cremer of Kings Lynn.
Tried searching for this marriage to no avail.
I have uploaded a larger version I hope.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Need a little help please with this 1704 will
« on: Monday 09 January 23 13:02 GMT (UK) »
The will belongs to Robert Pygot gentleman of Kings Lynn and is dated 1704. I can decipher most of it, but I'm struggling with a name.
See attachment 1
It's the line that reads:
To my godchildren
Cremer, and Catherine Cobb the above named 5 pounds.
I think the surname Cremer is correct but cannot make out the first names.
Also at the end of the will in the margins it has the following written. I can make out thomas cremer but am struggling with what it says. See attachment 2 for this.
See attachment 1
It's the line that reads:
To my godchildren
Cremer, and Catherine Cobb the above named 5 pounds.I think the surname Cremer is correct but cannot make out the first names.
Also at the end of the will in the margins it has the following written. I can make out thomas cremer but am struggling with what it says. See attachment 2 for this.
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The Common Room / Re: How do I trace a ship called Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 25 May 22 10:37 BST (UK) »
Seaweed I think you are right in your thinking. I will look into the links you have given me.
I have not seen the gravestone. My info comes from a PDF document listing all gravestones in Gretna old church. It's on page 33 of the document below.
http://www.longtown19.co.uk/index_htm_files/Gretna%20Old%20Church.pdf
I have not seen the gravestone. My info comes from a PDF document listing all gravestones in Gretna old church. It's on page 33 of the document below.
http://www.longtown19.co.uk/index_htm_files/Gretna%20Old%20Church.pdf
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The Common Room / Re: How do I trace a ship called Liverpool
« on: Monday 23 May 22 08:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mazi I'll have a read later.
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The Common Room / How do I trace a ship called Liverpool
« on: Sunday 22 May 22 20:52 BST (UK) »
I recently came across a monumental inscription on a grave in Gretna, Dumfries, Scotland. It reads:
In memory of John MILLAR cattle dealer who died at Springfield on the 22nd of March 1825 aged 88 years. Of Jane JOHNSTON his spouse who died the 29th of March 1831 aged 81 years. Of Robert his son surgeon on board the ship Liverpool who died on his passage from Old Callabar in Africa on the 25th of Decr 1816 aged 32 years. Of Mary his daughter who died in infancy. Also John MILLAR his son who died the 5th of Novr 1826 aged 50 years. Also Walter MILLAR their son who died the 30th of Octr 1844 aged 60 years.
The person I'm interested in is Robert Millar surgeon aboard the Liverpool.
The only ship called Liverpool I could find is the following HMS Liverpool.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/HMS_Liverpool_(1814)
Liverpool was commissioned under Captain Arthur Farquhar in May 1814. Her first commission was very brief, though. She escorted convoys to Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and Quebec. She then served at the Cape Station before returning to Deptford to be paid off on 3 April 1816. First, though, she captured the French schooner Circonstance on 21 October 1815. Circonstance was carrying 67 slaves.
On 5 Match 1816, Liverpool was driven ashore and severely damaged at Dover, Kent, England. She was later refloated and taken in to The Downs. In 1817 she was laid up at Deptford.
As you can see it was no where near Old Callabar in Africa in 1816.
Does anyone know any websites that can confirm which ship Robert Millar served on, or any details of his career.
Thanks
In memory of John MILLAR cattle dealer who died at Springfield on the 22nd of March 1825 aged 88 years. Of Jane JOHNSTON his spouse who died the 29th of March 1831 aged 81 years. Of Robert his son surgeon on board the ship Liverpool who died on his passage from Old Callabar in Africa on the 25th of Decr 1816 aged 32 years. Of Mary his daughter who died in infancy. Also John MILLAR his son who died the 5th of Novr 1826 aged 50 years. Also Walter MILLAR their son who died the 30th of Octr 1844 aged 60 years.
The person I'm interested in is Robert Millar surgeon aboard the Liverpool.
The only ship called Liverpool I could find is the following HMS Liverpool.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/HMS_Liverpool_(1814)
Liverpool was commissioned under Captain Arthur Farquhar in May 1814. Her first commission was very brief, though. She escorted convoys to Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and Quebec. She then served at the Cape Station before returning to Deptford to be paid off on 3 April 1816. First, though, she captured the French schooner Circonstance on 21 October 1815. Circonstance was carrying 67 slaves.
On 5 Match 1816, Liverpool was driven ashore and severely damaged at Dover, Kent, England. She was later refloated and taken in to The Downs. In 1817 she was laid up at Deptford.
As you can see it was no where near Old Callabar in Africa in 1816.
Does anyone know any websites that can confirm which ship Robert Millar served on, or any details of his career.
Thanks
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Can someone decipher this for me please.
« on: Wednesday 18 May 22 14:35 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your help. Indeed I have seen the will and it's one of many I cannot fit into the Cremer tree. Will keep digging.
Thanks
Thanks