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Cork / Re: thomas harrington b 1907 cork
« on: Friday 23 June 23 19:10 BST (UK)  »
I know this is an old thread but I’m posting on the off chance contributors see this.
I’m also interested in Thomas Harrington b 1907, who married Margaret Webber. I have their 1930 marriage certificate. Does anyone have info on their descendants? I’m keen to trace them. I have M E b 1930, P F b 1935, M A b 1937 and A b 1941. There may be more.

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Perthshire / Re: John Monteath, author
« on: Tuesday 01 December 20 11:53 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: diddymiller on Friday 27 November 20 17:39 GMT (UK)
Bit stuck now as cant find marriage James  to Margaret Baird on sp.
Got all their children and daughter Elizabeth's death 1858 confirms their names.  She's my line.


Diddy

My Monteaths are the family on the Ryeland tree that Annie posted (#3). I'm still unpicking them but it looks as if my 5x g grandparents are John Monteath and Christian (E)adie and I descend from two of their sons:
1. John Monteath b 1766 m Mary McLaurin > Christian Monteath b 1794 m William Cairns > William Cairns b 1831 m Helen Monteath b 1835 > Agnes Isabella Cairns b 1866 d 1959, my great grandmother, remembered by my older brothers.
2. Henry Monteath b 1769 m Janet Sharp > Alexander Monteath b 1801 m Agnes Anderson > Isabella Monteath b 1830 [sister of Helen Monteath above] m James Kirk > John Kirk b 1856 d 1899, my great grandfather, who married Agnes Isabella Cairns above.
So a lot of intermarriage to get my head round! Agnes and John, my g grandparents, were noted as 'Cousins German' - first cousins - on their marriage certificate.
I'm not sure how/if you fit in. I've not seen a link yet but that doesn't mean there isn't one. My Monteaths were Perthshire farmers - my brother still has one of the farms they married into, in Glendevon - and land records and wills will be useful when I get to them.

Ann

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 16:54 GMT (UK)  »
Progress is continuing!
I now have the 1857 death certificate for Janet MacDonald, my 3x g grandmother, and so information on her parents and one of her daughters, Isobel.

Can I ask your opinion on James McIntyre, the 1826 Kilmallie baptism? I've attached the record and I don't think he's a sibling, despite the parents' names. The record notes 'in fornication' - all the others are 'lawful', as you would expect with an 1800 marriage. It's also in a different place and, though I'm not certain of the handwriting, this Colin may come from Strone?, Fort William, not Morvern. There are two Janet Macdonalds and one Colin McIntyre of the right ages in Kilmallie so I'm leaning towards coincidence rather than relationship.

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 16:41 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: annby on Saturday 28 November 20 08:40 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 November 20 08:24 GMT (UK)
What does it say on Colin and Janets marriage record? Anything about it being a second marriage, or where he was from?

Neale1961 I've not downloaded the records yet. I will do later today then post an update.

Colin McIntyre is recorded as coming from Morvern in Mairon’s out of Morvern baptism record and as tenant at Aulisten in the Morvern baptism records for the other children. This fits with my Alexander, his son, being at Aulisten in 1841 and 1851.

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 08:40 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 November 20 08:24 GMT (UK)
What does it say on Colin and Janets marriage record? Anything about it being a second marriage, or where he was from?

Neale1961 I've not downloaded the records yet. I will do later today then post an update.

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 November 20 07:41 GMT (UK)
The difference in age between Colin and Janet, make me wonder if there was a previous marriage for Colin. There is a possible on SP.

The 1793 Levingston marriage?
Both my 3x g grandfathers on this line, Colin and Malcolm McPherson, were certainly older parents.

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 07:06 GMT (UK)  »
Big drum roll - I have found Alexander McIntyre's death certificate. He died in Oban in 1889, as the widower of Sarah McPherson and notified by son Colin. His parents are named as Colin and Janet MS McDonald.
His age is given as 65, which is what threw us off in the first place as the 1881 census has him at 74 - in 8 years he's become 9 years younger, which is some going!
I've found a marriage for his parents in 1800 in Kilininian and Kilmore and various children born to them, mainly in Morvern. No Alexander, predictably - unless there's a missing record, I suspect he's Colin.
Kilininian and Kilmore
1804 - Mairon
Morvern
1805 - John
1808 - Mary
1812 - Isobel
1814 - Colin
1817 - Isobel
1819 - Colin
Kilmallie
1826 - James
So mission #1 accomplished but still lots to keep me busy!

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Perthshire / Re: John Monteath, author
« on: Friday 27 November 20 17:04 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: diddymiller on Thursday 26 November 20 19:51 GMT (UK)
just started looking into my Monteaths back from


Elizabeth Monteath b.6/12/1767 Dunblane  d/o James M = Margaret Baird. one of 5 children.
 married David Brown  28/11/1806 Logie, Perth  my 3x GGrandfather

will check all above to see if connection
Diddy :)

Diddy, I’ve been distracted from my Monteaths by my McIntyres and McPhersons but will get back to them soon and let you know if I see a common ancestor.

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McIntyre, born Morvern 1815, and family
« on: Friday 27 November 20 14:44 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: MonicaL on Friday 27 November 20 14:35 GMT (UK)
Confusing about the natural/lawful isn't it.

Good find on the son Malcolm in 1824. Certainly looks like Black for Flora's maiden name on the image.

Sarah/Sally/Marion are common variants. See www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=sarah  I think this is the best site to check always for first name variants...some obvious, some less so.

Have you viewed the image for Sally McIntyre in 1815?

Monica

Very confusing. Lawful in Glasgow but natural in Fort William. I've attached the 1815 Sally McPherson.
Thank you for the alternative name link. I knew Sarah/Sally were variants but didn't realise Marion was too.

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