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Aberdeenshire / Re: Aberdeen early 1800's
« on: Wednesday 29 January 25 20:33 GMT (UK)  »
If you look at the death record for Grace Wilkie born at Haldimand County 1846 you see her parents listed as John Wilkie and Elizabeth Campbell (both from Scotland). There are also records for Grace's siblings Agnes, Margaret and Jane.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6PP-DJP

I don't see a wedding on Scottish SP for that couple. Perhaps they married in Canada.

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I meant to get back and say thank you for the reply.

Cheers.

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Pardon me folks. I wasn't aware that there were two Longside Aberdeenshire's. Confused myself... when I saw Longside near Rayne there was a Westerton right beside it. Now I see where I went wrong...

Thank you!
I thought this might be it but it's not close enough to Longside
Map:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.6&lat=57.49732&lon=-1.81987&layers=6&b=1&o=100

Edit:  Now i'm noticing multiple Westerton's near Peterhead ... including this one near Aughtygall

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.9&lat=57.48619&lon=-1.84287&layers=6&b=1&o=100

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There are multiple Wesrtown/Westerton's in aberdeenshire. Using the map you linked you can see Westeron is very close to Longide. I think I linked the wrong one in my post above...

Thanks! I'll use that map in the future.


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Happy New Years to you as well!

Thanks.

There are at least three forms of Westertown/Westerton that I see on the Aberdeenshire map so far. I think I finally see it , not far from Lonside...

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.0&lat=57.33597&lon=-2.50931&layers=6&b=1&o=100


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Greetings. I'm trying to decipher and locate the place name in the attached snip. It's listed as being in or near Longside Aberdeenshire. The time-frame is 1794.

Thanks in advance!


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Back with an update...

I feel like I was floundering around there and not really getting much progress. The best thing I did was reread this thread. Most of the answers I'm seeking were already addressed earlier.

It comes down (as first mentioned by Neale I believe):

It appears that there are two brothers John and William Dalgarno near New Deer and each of them is having kids around 1750/1760's . People on ancestry have come to believe that William & John are the same person but I don't think it's the case. Both were married to someone named Margaret Sangster.

It was John Dalgarno having a son named James in 1757 at Clochan with Margaret Sangster., witness John Sangster

Meanwhile William Dalgarden has son James in 1759 at Little Auchloch with witness George Sangster. It doesn't say wife was Margaret Sangster but it seems implied.

To the best of my knowledge James Dalgarno 1757 from John is the same one who is the weaver of Blackhills mentioned on the grave:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/232471280/james_dalgarno

I believe:
JD 1757 first married Margaret Gall and then Jane Taylor in 1788
JD 1759 married Margaret Ramsay 1781  and then possible Helen Hay in 1801 (no clues on this marriage doc)

So that's where it stands... I'm trying to find definitive prove that William and John are two different people, likely brothers that each had a son named James. If the documents are correct James Dalgarno who married Margaret Ramsay should be a blacksmith.

On SP the two are listed side by side and it looks like they are two different people:


Dalgarno   
James
John Dalgarno/Margaret Sangster
M
08/11/1757
228
10 / 88
Old Deer

Dalgardon
Margaret
William Dalgardon/Margaret Sangster
F
16/04/1758
225
20 / 124
New Deer

I believe this James 1759 from the same William is the father of JD 1787 and married Margaret Ramsay (and possibly later to a Hay). So he would be cousin to JD 1757 the weaver of Blackhill.

Dalgarden
James   
William Dalgarden
M
20/04/1759
225
20 / 129
New Deer

Above: William is at Little Auchioch New Deer and John is at Clochan Old Deer.

It all hinges on whether James Dalgarno 1759 was a blacksmith at Earlseat Cruden ...

Forfarian already mentioned a bunch of this earlier and I'm thankful!

I feel like I have already received a bunch of help on this... but if anyone has any insights I'd be greatly appreciative! Anyone who has any opinions, comments , critiques... please feel free to chime in!

Attached: James Dalgarden birth 1759 -father William Dalgarno  Little Auchoch


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Thanks for taking the time.

Much appreciated!

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Thanks for the excellent help as usual!

Appreciated.

That place is very close to New Deer as well.

Anyone happen to know how far it is from this place? Just curious if they are close. There is a similar but different crofting site beside Achmunz[ie]ll.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/roy/#zoom=14.0&lat=57.50289&lon=-2.18299&layers=0

I found Auchyoch which is very similar....

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/roy/#zoom=14.4&lat=57.54726&lon=-2.11444&layers=0

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