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Recently came across this list of Arrivals in Barbados in 1747 of Glenmoriston Grant prisoners following Culloden.  The one that I was interested in is John Grant Craskie age 40, he made it.  So he didn't die from post Culloden injuries, didn't die in the Inverness Gaol, didn't die on the boat trip down to London, didn't die drawing lots where all the ship's prisoners were grouped by twenty and then drew lots (the loser went to the tower or Tilbury and was executed),  he didn't die during Transport and he did arrive in Barbados.  Unfortunately, per this document the trail gets muddied by the possibility that he was then shipped elsewhere by a London merchant named Samuel Smith ?

Here is the online document as I found it, posted by The Friends of Barbados Archives, interesting.  It appears to have the same informational elements that also existed in the British records when they were taken prisoner...The author of this excerpt leaves a few more crumbs to be researched, but I enjoyed this one.

[CARIBBEAN-L] GRANTS of Glenmoriston to Barbados
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Extract from The Journal of the Barbados Museum & Historical Society Journal, Vol XXXI, No. 2, May 1963, pages 73-90. (GRANTS on pages 77 &78)

SCOTS PRISONERS TRANSFERRED TO BARBADOS & JAMAICA

Name Age Home Notes
Grant, Alexander 48 Wester, Inverwick, Boatman, In Barbados,
Glenmoriston but escaped.
Grant, Alexander 55 Ditto Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Alexander 31 Glen Urquhart Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Alexander 35 Glenmoriston __
Grant, Angus 34 Wester Dundregan, Farmer in Glenmoriston
Glenmoriston
Grant, Angus 50 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Archibald 40 Glen Urquhart Farmer in Glen Urquhart
Grant, Donald 36 Dalnagarn, Farmer in Glenmoriston
Glenmoriston
Grant, Donald 32 Ballintonbuy, Farmer in Glenmoriston
Glenmoriston
Grant, Donald 40 Wester Dundreggan, Farmer in Glenmoriston
Glenmoriston
Grant, Donald 40 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Dugal 50 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, George 40 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Hugh 50 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, James* 50 Blair, Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 40 Craskie, Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 45 Belnagarn, Farmer in Glenmoriston
Glenmoriston
Grant, John 41 Easter Achlein, Farmer in Glenmoriston
Glenmoriston
Grant, John 50 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 30 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 40 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 25 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 40 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 45 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, John 22 Glenmoriston __ __
Grant, John 26 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Peter 50 Glenmoriston Farmer in Glenmoriston
Grant, Peter 24 Inverness Fiddler in Glen Urquhart
Grant, Walter 40 Teviotdale Barber in Edinburgh

[All spellings transcribed exactly from List. * James is "my" Grant!]
A brief extract from t he introduction to the lists:
"It is stated by the Treasury Records that 150 men went in the ship Frere, commander John Peters, to Barbados, 110 men and boys in the ship St. George, commander Geo. Snow to Jamaica, and 10 boys in the Cateret, commander Chas. Friend to Jamaica, making a total of 270..."
"... In the Registration Office, Barbados, there is a list of the names of persons who had been pardoned by H.M. King George III in 1746 of high treason, on condition that they bound themselves apprentice and servant to Samuel Smith, a London Merchant, to be transported to His Majesty's Islands or Colonies in America. This list contains the names of 127 persons, and since the document is recorded in Barbados, it is possible that these men travelled hither in the ship Frere. The number is 23 less however than stated by the Treasury Books. Possibly these died before or during the voyage and their names may have ben omitted from the record in the Barbados Registration Office..."
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Ernest M. Wiltshire / Friends of the Barbados Archives
38 Inglewood Place, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1Y 4C7
Tel & Fax: 613-729-0982 e-mail: mur...@synapse.net
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Lately a McDonald has been digging into her McDonald lineage.  We share common ancestors from the daughter Flora of Donald Grant b1778 s/o Donald Grant Craskie b1744 Char 2C N13 SBRR and son Alex of the Duncan "by the Bridge" McDonald on Char 2C N23 SBRR. 

Though this McD signature is R1b and so not of the R1a chiefly lines, nonetheless it appears to have an interesting past.  The terminal SNP for her father's line is BY-150.  There are some historical matches for her McD line from Glenmoriston.  Two of the BY-150 matching Y DNA testers have passed, but the family that remains have had some limited communication from Glenmoriston. 

In it they indicated that their lines reach back deeply in time in Glenmoriston and that they descend from one of the seven good men in Aonach.  From the existing published records and stories.  this lineage appears to track back to Clan Ian Chaoil (slender john). In the book, Olden Times in the Parish, there are a couple of references to this "clan" in the attachments.  Another story attributed to this line pegs the father of this "clan" as John Riagh Nan-Stop and various versions of this name exist. 

He was supposedly a close confidant of Glengarry and were in Glenmoriston in the late 1300s onward.  four of his sons are named in the attachments and each given a "clan" designation, which seems a bit gratuitous, lol.  one of them is Clan Iain Ruadh.  This appears by accounts to be a different Clan Iain Ruadh than the west coast, but scots like to move around, clan Ranald derivation and if I remember correctly, they appear to  occupy different times in different places. 

The father and sons were in GM by 1395 (at least according to an account) Glenmoriston Clan Iain Ruadh (GM CIR) may have begun with John Riagh Nan-stops son or John Riagh Nan-stop may have had the designation himself and passed it to his eldest son, dont know.  but according to the attached information, the GM CIR was in charge of the Exchange of the Shirts ceremony that took place with the chief of Glengarry on an "annual" basis.   

We are discovering more information slowly but surely with other McD DNA matches from Australia who have recently left GM and have the same family history.  So this is getting to be some fun.  Luckily we have some good DNA to help shore of the stories.  If you know of any, please encourage other McDs from GM to get the big Y DNA test.           

Sorting out the Clan Iain Ruadh (CIR) groupings can be confusing, one person on a genealogy site offered up this thought that I have come to believe is probably more correct than not: briefly and paraphrasing... There is a high probability that there were quite a number of highland families that used the fairly common name of CIR.   

There is also confusion and debate as to whether it was really a separate "officially" recognized Clan or a Sept, or whether there was a Clan and a couple aligned septs occupying different areas, still foggy.  Did it arise to such a level of power as to be recognized as a Clan?

I can easily think that there were probably at least three CIR groupings based on current DNA, old trees and family lore:

1) the Haplo R1a chiefly line CIR that is referred to in old Clan Donald family trees.  Assuming that the Y DNA signature was not replaced at some point with an R1b, which would really scramble some eggs ?

2) the Haplo R1b CIR that is mentioned in history occupying the Glenmoriston area well before and during the Grant importation, and by existing DNA signatures and scant family lore of two individuals who lived in the hills above Glenmoriston (unknown whether they or their relatives are still alive),  this CIR grouping appears to be aligned with the R-BY150 Y group.

3) Another Haplo R1b CIR that appears to be associated with Loupe/Knoydart yet different than the Glenmoriston group (for at least the last 800 years) and looks to be associated with the above Peter as R-BY154. 

I have a number of john roy McD's in a branch of my tree who herald from Knoydart, but their Haplo group is I-M253 which is a common Viking marker.  Nonetheless I wonder if they are a"sept" or groupie, lol, of CIR?

Are there more CIR groupings out there, probably.  Is what I state above potentially inaccurate, you bet.  More testing and research will be required, sigh. 

I think someone told me that the Clan McDonald DNA website designated the 2nd group above as being CIR, that would be somewhat erroneous in that there appear to be at least three separate groupings as indicated above, so maybe a little premature if not deficient in scope.

That's unfortunate, It is a hard case to make to someone who knows their history already and wouldn't necessarily see the benefit of such and expensive exercise.  If you ever get the chance to speak to them, please let them know that there are a number of us who would gladly pool some  money needed to help cover the cost of the test.  All we would need is their spit.  Hate to see a missed opportunity to validate the lineage and look for that mythical SNP mutation that might show a distinction between the Craskie and Duldreggan lines or just validate the closeness of the GM Grants. 

Part 2 of 2

Several more, yawn, points need clarification. 

The "John Roy Grant" from the prison records was pretty clearly a wheelwright from Aberdeen who was holed up in Craskie "there" for a bit after Culloden and he was allowed to return to Aberdeen. 

This is a different John Grant, than John Grant Craskie Farmer age 40 when transported in 1747.  This information is obtained from a detailed analysis by Seton in a work called “Prisoners of the '45". 

Many people assume these people to be the same John (Roy) Grant and attribute DOBs of 1705 and 1706 to him as they look at the prisoner record and mistakenly assume "age 40" was calculated from the year 1745 Culloden or 1746 when John Grant Craskie farmer was a prisoner, but the record states the age was noted on the date of transport in 1747, so DOB 1707....assuming that he didn't lie about his age. LOL.

Not that John b1707 couldn't have had a middle name of Roy, it's just that there is no record that has come forth to my knowledge.  This conflation of the two john's has instilled a bit of doubt in Evelyn Goulet's previous work as to make her want to revisit this at some point in the future.

The literature is pretty clear about the concurrent existence of both Patrick "the elder" OF Craskie and John of Craskie "father of Isobel" as to solidify the reality that two Grant brothers (or ½ brothers) lived in Craskie at the same point in time and both had children there. 

The elder Patrick getting the wadset and the younger brother, John of Craskie, continued to live there in some capacity, fathering Isobel and quite likely John b1707 Craskie...speculation  sure, but the dates, location, meager records and familial circumstances appear to support such an assertion/guess.     

From the above mentioned entry "Therefore I think that this Donald may have lived at Craskie [perhaps his mother being forced by necessity to move there], but he would not REALLY be a Craskie Grant." obviously this is just one interpretation that explains this situation. 

I gladly surrender the possibility/probability that Donald Grant Craskie b1744 was not of the wadset lineage, and if by that, his labeling of Donald as "not REALLY.. a Craskie Grant" is in reference to that reality, I surrender. 

But, if by that passage, he implies that Donald Grant couldn't have been born and reared on Craskie and fathered through a Craskie branch of the Glenmoriston family tree, then I think I have shown enough potential for an alternate reality and it is just as valid an assertion/interpretation of the available information.  Obviously, Craskie was included in his U.E.L. Records for a reason.   

As always, these are just two possible scenarios based on little more than hearsay if judged in any legal environment and as such are sparsely informed pipe dreams, LOL.

As for the possibility of Y DNA shedding light on this situation: 1) Donald Grant Craskie Weaver's DNA has been tested and is known to match the the primary chiefly Grant line (there is a secondary chiefly line). 

This means he carried the same Y chromasome as the Grants of Grant and descends through a straight father to son lineage.  Dundreggan Grants and Glenmoriston Grant men also carry this same signature.   So we really can't discern much from all the men having the same Y signature.

However, little pieces of the Y chromosome mutate periodically (called SNPs).  To prove Mr. Young correct re: the presence of a Duldreggan descendant in Craskie as he proposes for Donald Grant, we would require at least two more male descendants from the Craskie line but not descending from Donald and two from known Duldreggan lines to add to our test data (which would be great). 

Then we would need for there to be a convenient mutation that would have occurred after their common ancestor (John the 3rd of GM) and before 1744 to delineate the two lines from each other and then see if Donald's DNA carried that mutation or not.

Though not impossible, it appears that this would be unlikely, still I'd love to see it.  All said, nothing is impossible and it was scrambled eggs in the glenn post culloden, so there are a lot of possible scenarios.