Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - foundblue

Pages: [1] 2 3 4
1
Lancashire / Re: Ainsworth Cockey Moor Middleton and Radcliffe PR Confusion
« on: Wednesday 11 November 20 18:09 GMT (UK)  »
Ann yes I did it was one of the first places I looked as it is a very good site as you say.  However I couldn't find anything for Cockey Moor, Ainsworth only starts at 1785 and has years missing, similarly Middleton seems to have the same gaps as Ancestry.  Radcliffe is the most unlikely one for the records I was hoping to find but it does have good ranges of years.    I have to concede the records I am after dont exist anymore or will have to wait until the archives open again.

2
Lancashire / Re: Ainsworth Cockey Moor Middleton and Radcliffe PR Confusion
« on: Wednesday 11 November 20 17:03 GMT (UK)  »
Ann - I am sure you are correct certainly about only marrying at CoE because of the Hardwick Act which applied in part of the time frame I am looking at.  I think the problem I have is taken things at face value.  Form example Ancestry have Middleton, St Leonard 1664 - 1759 records which is true in that they start 1664 and end 1759 but there are large numbers of years missing where the registers no longer exist or are too damaged hence my searches didnt work.  I haven't yet worked out why I can't find the equivalent records in the Bishops Transcripts though, unless of course my theories are incorrect and the entries just don't exist.  Also many of the dissenters records have a single name Fred baptised March,  Joe buried April but no "son of" phrase or parents names which I haven't come across before and is so frustrating.  Just realised that Middleton is a split parish so has chapels of ease miles from the parent church.

Nick

3
Lancashire / Re: Ainsworth Cockey Moor Middleton and Radcliffe PR Confusion
« on: Wednesday 11 November 20 10:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks heywood and garstonite - there are a couple of places there that I hadn't tried.  Thanks for the hints.
nick

4
Lancashire / Ainsworth Cockey Moor Middleton and Radcliffe PR Confusion
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 10:26 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching my Kirkman line around 1600 to 1800 in these areas but have become very confused.  Could someone advise me where I may find on line records for this period or which archives I should visit.   Prior to 1727 most records seem to disappear as though they are no longer exist.  Many years are missing.

Some families seem to move from church to church.  Bishops Transcripts covering Middleton appear to cover the other parishes some miles away.   Anglican and nonconformists worship at the same churches and Ainsworth and Cockey Moor appear to be the same place.  The more I look at Phillimore's and genuki the more I get puzzled!  Using maps from the NLS seemed to be straight forward at first but doesn't seem to reflect these parishes.

So where should I look to research this area in this time period?

Thanks
Nick

5
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« on: Saturday 08 August 20 18:25 BST (UK)  »
Just seen your James comment - the date doesn't fit with Benjamin but it is certainly another other option.  Benjamin is reasonable consistent in 1841, 51 and 61 only slipping a year and 2 years older when he was buried but given he was dead at the time the vicar must have asked someone who wasn't quiet spot on.  I assume he died in 1865 aged a supposed 74.   I will obtain that death cert to see who is named on it as I haven't got it.

6
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« on: Saturday 08 August 20 18:20 BST (UK)  »
There seem to be 2 John's marrying Sarah's circa 1788/89 - one being Quaker (again!) but whilst they married in Wooldale he was resident in Bolton and his parents and bride from Raistrick/Brighouse.
So I think the John Lees marrying a Sarah 2 jun 1788 and possibly having a Sarah, Ann, Mary, Tommy, John and Benjamin but the churches for the christenings vary too much for my liking.

The Quaker records though are so full of detail names of the in laws and everything.  But many of the children of the other John and Sarah were christened as "of Netherton" which would fit nicely with South Crosland.

7
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« on: Saturday 08 August 20 15:01 BST (UK)  »
Post 1837 would be Walter Allen Lees born 9 Jul 1862.  He was the son of Ezra who was the son of Benjamin and Fanny Cotton.   Unfortunately Ezra just escaped the 1837 changes.  Realistically I am very confident about Benjamin and Fanny and as well as records such as Census and Christeneings etc I have a number of DNA matches that confirm the relationships.    They married 30 Jun 1817 Almondbury.  I can trace the Cotton family but Benjamin is my mystery.   There is another possibility that I wasn't too keen on till Benjamin of Hey died early in his life yesterday but it lacked any other evidence and I felt depended upon the location of Miry Lane.   That is a Benjamin son of John 3 March 1793 (from memory) but I am sure I found him in the census later in his life and therefore dismissed him.  I need to re do that research again.

8
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« on: Friday 07 August 20 17:21 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Gibel I think the heats got to me today - I've just had a good look for that burial Ben of Ben 15th June 1793 but can't find it in the Marsden, Slaithwaite or Almondbury records.

Which chapel was it?

9
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Lees family circa 1850 christenings (Huddersfield area)
« on: Friday 07 August 20 15:35 BST (UK)  »
Gibel - Many thanks for doing that you have just actually possibly destroyed my theory!   Still that's what I wanted to do either prove the Oldham Quaker theory or my Benjamin from Linthwaite theory.  I just liked my theory better.

You have found the same ones as I but I also have Samuel 1776, William 1778, Mary 1780, Thomas 1782, a Joseph 1785 (? typo).   I assume these are to a Benjamin who married a Martha Sykes 8 Jan 1776.    Some things there for me to check and compare place names with.   The last two Martha and Benjamin fit with naming after their parents.  So all good.

What I hadn't found, didn't look for infact because everything was fitting nicely, was a Benjamin son of Ben dying which would mean he couldn't be "my" Benjamin and therefore the tree with the Quaker Benjamin son of Benjamin and Esther Roberts was possibly the answer. 

Benjamin whoever he is would be my 4x great grandfather so I want to get to know the right one.

Pages: [1] 2 3 4