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The Common Room / Re: The History of Estate Agents in the U.K.
« on: Friday 13 September 24 14:49 BST (UK)  »
Likewise Keith. It was great to read about the family’s role in the early days of estate agents.
As an extra treat, here’s a picture of my ancestor Charles Francois Futvoye (b1777). He owned an art shop in Marylebone and is reported to have taught Queen Charlotte in Chinoiserie art (fashionable at the time).
He’s the grandfather of your George Futvoye Francis I think.

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The Common Room / Re: The History of Estate Agents in the U.K.
« on: Friday 13 September 24 06:36 BST (UK)  »
For what it’s worth I’m related to the Futvoyes. It’s a surname that some later generations kept as a middle name. They emigrated to England from Spa in Belgium around the 1790 revolution period. They pop up on Charles Dance’s Who Do You Think You Are episode.

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Re: Evans - 63 Orts Road, Reading
« on: Monday 04 April 22 18:03 BST (UK)  »
I think I just found a relative of mine living at this address as a boarder in the ‘21 census. I think your theory about Huntley & Palmers is right. The rest of my relative’s family were all living back at their home address in London.
Edit: my relative worked at the nearby Gas Works, he often travelled around as a boarder. So I expect the houses on this road were used for lodgings quite a bit.

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The Common Room / Re: Interchangeable Name for Martha
« on: Wednesday 15 December 21 09:25 GMT (UK)  »
I stumbled across this thread as I was looking for a connection between the names Martha and May. I’ve read that May was a common pet name for Mary and Margaret, but also possibly for Martha.
I have an ancestor who was called May Busby. I have her census and marriage records but have been struggling to pinpoint her birth (and older relatives) because I’m guessing she wasn’t born May.
Using her place and year of birth (Brixton 1865) and fathers name at marriage (Henry) I searched high and low for different name variants and the only one that made sense was born Martha.

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Denbighshire / Re: Llansilin Denbighshire
« on: Wednesday 14 July 21 10:56 BST (UK)  »
Well it’s lovely to ‘meet’ a long lost relative Liverbird - greetings to you and your family.
So our Ann Jones and your Richard Jones (jnr) were siblings it seems.
Interestingly Ann’s daughter Martha married a Llanfyllin man and they also moved to Liverpool around the late 1880’s and lived rest of their lives there. I wonder if she would have been in touch with uncle Richard? I have a photo of Martha from the time before they moved away from Wales.

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Denbighshire / Re: Llansilin Denbighshire
« on: Monday 12 July 21 17:44 BST (UK)  »
After doing a quick check I’ve just seen that you have had a few conversations about the family lines I’ve listed above, so I’m about 9 years late into the chat!!
What great work you’ve all done and I’m pleased that it seems to match most of what I’d found because I was a bit uncertain. So it looks like we are a bit stuck with the Llangollen Richard Jones and with the origins of John & Sarah Jones from Llangynog unless I missed something? Really appreciate the help you all give so generously. I found a  Richard Jones I was leaning towards but can’t really be sure of - born in 1794 in Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog. It seems not too far from Llansilin, but pure guess work.

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Denbighshire / Re: Llansilin Denbighshire
« on: Monday 12 July 21 13:46 BST (UK)  »
I found Richard & Mary’s marriage record (1832 in Llansilin). Going back further I couldn’t find much out about Richard Jones (Ann’s father) supposedly born in Llangollen. But I did trace Mother Mary (Rogers) down - born and baptised on 29 April 1804 (Llangynog, Mont.) parents John & Sarah Rogers. Sarah was buried in Llangynog (1838), the details say she was 78 and living somewhere called ‘Bron Garregog’. John was buried in Llansilin (1841). That’s about as far as I got. I couldn’t trace their marriage or births/origins.

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Denbighshire / Re: Llansilin Denbighshire
« on: Monday 12 July 21 13:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Liverbird
You asked for some details of my ancestor so here goes:
Here are the records I’ve got for Anne Jones.

One of the problems I’ve had is with the inconsistent ages / date of birth in some of these records, but I can’t see it could be any other possibility.

1835 Baptism
Baptised in Llansilin church 13 Sep 1835 to Richard & Mary Jones he is a Labourer

1841 Census
Ann Jones aged 6 Llansilin village with
Richard (38) Ag Labourer, Mary (36), Mary & Martha (12), Sarah (9), Benjamin (3) and John Rogers (82) - this is Ann’s maternal grandad.

1851 Census
Ann is no longer living at home with parents.
The family is listed as living at the Bake House, Llansilin - Richard (55) farmers labourer, Mary (46), Richard (5), Mariah (7), David (2).

I think I found Ann in the 1851 census living at Pridd Brwll / Pridd Broll (Salop) working as a general servant. Age 15.

Marriage record.
Married 21 December 1858. Llansilin Parish Church to Edward Davies. Resident in Llansilin father is Richard Jones (Labourer).

1861 Census
Ann now married is with husband Edward Davies living in Scrwgan Cottage with 2 year old daughter Mary-Ann. Her age is listed as 24 here, her name is spelt Anne.

In 1871 and 1881 they have moved to Pen Gorphwysfa / Pengerphusper in Llanfyllin.

Their daughter Martha Davies is my Gt Gt Grandmother.

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Denbighshire / Re: Llansilin Denbighshire
« on: Friday 02 July 21 23:13 BST (UK)  »
That’s fantastic thanks Owltalk.
My mum is visiting the area soon, this is great to see.

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