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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Tuesday 23 June 15 09:28 BST (UK)  »
Can you work out how to send me your email address, and then I will send you the information I have, but it won't be before the weekend. Sorry!  Yes, John Hobbs married Ann Phazey in 1770.  He was born 1744.  Francis' dates are 1783-1852 and Ann (Keith)'s dates are 1782-1861.  She was a lacemaker.
Cheers
Alpha

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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Monday 22 June 15 03:54 BST (UK)  »
Hello
   My great-great-grandfather William Hobbs (1811-1878) had a brother called Robert (known as Robin) who was born 13 July 1809 in Hambleden, Bucks. My notes (from information written down by my gt-gfr Frederick Hobbs in 1896) state that he became a gardener to Mr Cox of Thames Bank, and was a noted horticulturalist. He later inherited the property of John (1 May 1807-19 March 1876) and returned to Hambleden where he was a sexton in the church. John, Robert and William were the first three sons of Francis (b 1783) and Ann (nee Keith). The other children were Alfred (1813-1861), Thomas (b 1818), James (b 1821), Joseph (b 1823) and Mary Ann (b 1825).  I worked out the family tree from the IGI (familysearch.org), and I have a copy of the Will of Thomas Hobbs (gf of Francis).  I hope this helps,
Cheers,
Alpha

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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Saturday 26 April 14 23:28 BST (UK)  »
Hello
I can't help you very much as the name Skitt means nothing to me.  However, I do know that Richard Warren married Ann Loxdale, 16 Dec 1759 at St Mary, Stafford, England and they had five children, none of them called Elizabeth. 

But, Elizabeth Warren knew Joseph Loxdale Warren.  She (possibly eloped with and) married Thomas Morris of Ribbesford, Worc on 2 Mar 1782 at St Peter Cornhill, London.  He was the son of Mary Cheeke and Thomas Morris, and he was christened 23 Apr 1762.  Apparently in the Royal Navy he was buried in a garden at Port Antonio (Jamaica?).  Before that they had three children: Samuel Cheeke (chr 23 Feb 1783 - 25 Jan 1839) who married Sarah and had one son Samuel (maybe also some daughters),
Elizabeth (bpt 29 June 1785 - 31 Dec 1838) who married John Massey, and
Joseph (chr 7 Jan 1787 - ??)

Elizabeth Warren/Morris married secondly Robert Meek on 15 Dec 1791 and had three more sons.
Samuel Cheeke Morris inherited the property of his grandmother Mary Cheeke/Morris.

Elizabeth Morris and John Massey (my 3x great-grandparents) have descendants in four generations with the name Loxdale as a Christian name.

It is through the Cheeke family that I was able to trace a very circuitous route back to William the Conqueror and his wife Matilda who was descended from Charlemagne, King of the Franks.

The information I have given you comes mainly from familysearch.org
If you Google Shropshire Archives and key in Samuel Cheeke Morris, Loxdale etc, you will find more information. Likewise Staffordshire Archives, etc. And if you do find a connection to the Morris and Cheeke families I will happily give you some more information about them.

I would be very interested to know exactly what John Skitt's Will said in regard to Loxdale, as this might help me to solve that mystery.

Cheers,
Alpha

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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Friday 25 April 14 09:12 BST (UK)  »
Yes, "my" Elizabeth was the sister of Samuel Cheeke Morris.
Cheers,
Alpha

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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Sunday 06 June 10 05:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you kimhulme.  Yes, i quickly realised that the Warren Bulkleys were not mine, but they were interesting to read about.  My Elizabeth Warren's ancestry remains a mystery.

Elizabeth G

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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Sunday 06 June 10 05:51 BST (UK)  »
Hello Abbey Road
   My Partridge ancestors are:

Roger Partridge d. 1782 m Tryphena Kelland
bought Nymet Rowland Barton in 1757

James Partridge 1741-1805 m Susannah Wreford c 1748-1799
Chn: James (Nymet Rowland willed to him)   John   (see below) Roger   William   Ann   Susannah   Tryphena   Samuel   Silvanus

John Partridge (see above) 1766-1853 m Susannah Moon 1771 - 1853/4
Chn: James   Frances   John   Silvanus (see below) 1805-1874, inherited Nymet Rowland,  Maria   Fanny

Silvanus Partridge (see above) m Elizabeth Mortimer 1806-1867
Chn: John (inherited Nymet Rowland)   Silvanus (emigrated to NZ)   Louisa   James (died in train accident with his mother)   William 1846-1888 m Katherine Massey and emigrated to NZ (honeymoon voyage).

   If any of these tie in with your family please pm me.

Elizabeth G.

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Hello Jackie
   I had a quick look at the Genealogical Card Index in the Christchurch City library this afternoon, and there was no sign of Elijah, Bertha or Joyce amongst the thirty or so Granthams.  That doesn't mean he didn't die here, it just makes him a bit harder to find.
   I'll have more time next week if you are still looking.
Happy hunting,
Alpha

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Cheshire / Re: Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Wednesday 02 May 07 11:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your help, mshrsh. It was more helpful than you realised as the Cheshire visitations website put me on to more possible ancestors. And now I know that Miss Warren married Lord Bulkley, not Buckley. I will have to do some more investigations tomorrow (Thursday New Zealand time) to see if I can find out if those Warrens are also "mine", or just one of gt-gt-grandfather's red herrings.

Cheers,
Alpha

Searching for:
Cooke: Dublin, London & Madras
Felton: Cowbridge, Glamorgan
Fox: Chatham & Rochester, Kent
Hobbs: Hambleden, Bucks
Massey: Hodnet, Shropshire
Murray: Taunton, Somerset
Partridge: Lapford & Nymet Rowland, Devon
and the elusive Anthony Andrew Thornton

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Cheshire / Warren-Wetnall-Buckley 1700's
« on: Saturday 28 April 07 08:53 BST (UK)  »
In the 1800’s my great-great-grandfather, Charles Massey, squashed his family history into half a page.  In so doing he left out several names, dates and places, and got others wrong! ! ! !  So, I am trying to pick up the pieces!  If anyone can shed any light on the following I would be so grateful:

(Approximately mid-1700’s)
“My Mother’s grandfather on the mother’s side was Mr Richard Warren, next heir at law to the property of Sir John Warren.  He married a Miss Wetnall of the Cheshire family – Sir John Warren’s sister married Lord Buckley.
Mr Richard Warren, next heir, and related to Sir John Warren, ran away with his wife when a girl, from a Boarding School, and marrying contrary to the wishes of  Sir John Warren, he would not leave him the property, on account of his marrying beneath himself, although she was of excellent family in Cheshire.”

(Background)
Charles Massey’s mother was Elizabeth Morris, and her mother was Elizabeth Warren (daughter of the above Richard), who married Thomas Morris of Ribbesford, Worcs at St Peter Cornhill, London in March 1782.  They had two sons and Elizabeth, and then Thomas died. His widow married Robert Meek, and had three more sons. I don’t have birth and death dates or places for Elizabeth Warren/Morris/Meek

Thank you to anyone who can help me,
Alpha.

Searching for:
Cooke: Dublin, London & Madras
Felton: Cowbridge, Glamorgan
Fox: Chatham & Rochester, Kent
Hobbs: Hambleden, Bucks
Massey: Hodnet, Shropshire
Murray: Taunton, Somerset
Partridge: Lapford & Nymet Rowland, Devon
and the elusive Anthony Andrew Thornton

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