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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Wednesday 18 December 19 04:37 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure if you have seen this record for Charles Bull from the Old Bailey proceedings.

https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/images.jsp?doc=182109120021

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Wednesday 18 December 19 03:41 GMT (UK)  »
I see that there are records for Ultimo police station at the NSW State Library. However, it seems to only be accessible from the library. I will try and get in there to do some research.

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Monday 16 December 19 22:34 GMT (UK)  »
Could there be census data that shows who was living at 33 Irving St before and after Edwin went missing? That may show if he returned.

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Sunday 15 December 19 10:37 GMT (UK)  »
Great sleuthing Heather. How did you find that?
I found a record of Ellen M. O'Shaughnessy and her brother Frederick J. living at 33 Irving St in 1888. Frederick J. also has his profession listed as 'carriage builder', which was also his father's profession. So definitely looks like the correct Edwin.
OK so how do I find out if he was found? Do you know if there are case files available? Does 'missing since the 12th' mean 12th of October? If it does, and the gazette is dated 4th November, that seems a long time to be missing :(
I am saddened as this may be the reason I cannot find a grave for Edwin (if he was never found).
Richard

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Friday 13 December 19 12:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Heather,
Getting back to your original post.....
I know that after Susanna passed, George Marcus was raised by his Aunt Ellen Massey O'Shaughnessy in Sydney. Ellen was dearly loved by George Marcus, and as a result, the name Massey is used in two of his daughters names.
I am still trying to discover what happened to Edward/Edwin.
Susanna and Ellen's Parents were Mark Terry O'Shaughnessy and Jane Massey of Limerick, Ireland. I found this interesting article about Susanna and Ellen's brothers, Mark and George Hamilton which you may be interested in.
http://limerickslife.com/oshaughnessy-brothers-journey-to-australia-1863/
I have asked Sharon Slater (author of the article) if she can provide any more information about the family.
Cheers

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Tuesday 10 December 19 09:42 GMT (UK)  »
Heather, my connection is:
Daniel Bull & Susanna O'Shaughnessy
George Marcus Bull & Eliza Musgrave
Marcus Gordon Bull (my grandfather)

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Tuesday 10 December 19 09:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Heather for the info on Charles William Bull.
I checked Janet (Carpenter) Bull's death certificate and it lists three children:
Isabella (3 y.o.)
Charles (1 y.o.), and
Daniel (2 months old).

Do you know what happened to Isabella and Daniel?

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Tuesday 10 December 19 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Heather,

I did visit the grave site several years ago. That's how I know there isn't a headstone.

Cheers,
Richard

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Australia / Re: Young family of Daniel BULL
« on: Tuesday 10 December 19 08:16 GMT (UK)  »
I can see from the death notice in the newspaper that Daniel Bull d. 1885 is definitely my Daniel as Susanna O'Shaugnessy is mentioned (as are two sons). So that is a little closure. I will try to get out to Rookwood to see if there is a headstone on his grave.
It makes sense now that there was no headstone on Susanna O'Shaunessy's grave as Daniel had no money, being declared insolvent shortly after her death. Sounds like pretty tough times.
I am also curious as to what happened with the other children, both Edward, and the children with Janet Carpenter.

Richard

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