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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Tuesday 17 February 26 09:47 GMT (UK)  »
 I haven't managed to find a first marriage for William b 1785.  I don't know why I ever had him down as being 1785 when it does appear to be the 1788 one. From William's baptism the first wife has to be Ann, but that could be a middle name or a variant.

It might turn up eventually, and I'm glad now that I've posted in this thread so that other researchers can see if any of this fits with their trees.

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 14:12 GMT (UK)  »
Have you obtained the Stanbury/Ingram marriage cert, Holborn 1840. If it is William's father with Mary Ann in '41 there's a good chance the cert. will carry father's name - it's not always guaranteed. The occupations won't match (victualler 1841: labourer 1815-1824 and I cannot read his occpn. on Mary Ann's 1826 baptism) but the address on the last 2 baptisms agree with the '41 Census.
The marriage cert for William Stanbury 1816 and Isabella Ingram is on Ancestry.  Father is William Stanbury, a victualler.

Marriage cert for John Stanbury (William's younger brother) has the father as William Stanbury (deceased) victualler.  Witnessed by William Stanbury, who should be my William 1816.

The occupation of victualller matches the 1841 census in Portsea for William Stanbury c1785, now a widower, living with daughter Mary, whose age matches that of the youngest daughter of William Stanbury and Ann Weable.

I don't know how William went from labourer to victualler. 

On the 1841 census, William the elder says he's 50, and that matches better with the trees of the Lifton Stanburys who list them having a son called William in 1878.  I'm not worried about a few years age difference on a census as I have seen so many ancestor fudge their age by up to 10 years between different censuses.  The address appears to be Georges Square.

Ohh I see what you mean  Baptism of Ann, daughter of William Stanbury and Ann Weable, their address was Georges Square. I can't read the occupation on Ann's baptism either, but that does confirm it's the same William being followed.

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
I've got another DNA match here to Thomas Stanbury b 1870 Stoke Damerel. He moved to America where there's an extant lineage that I've matched to.

According to these trees, which I haven't had time to verify everything yet, that Thomas was son of

Thomas Stanbury 1847 or 1848, born Jersey, Channel Islands to Abraham Stanbury born 1817. I trust that all of that will add up nicely, I did have a quick look at the census and it looks fine.

There is a tree here with ancestry for Abraham 1817 but I haven't gone through it to verify everything.

They have Abraham Stanbury 1817, Launceston, Cornwall.
His father John Stanbury 1783, born Lifton, dies Launceston
John's parents are John Stanbury and Susannah Bevan.

So this backs up John Stanbury/Susanna Bevan being the parents of William c 1785.

So why is my aunt, and this distant cousin who descends from William and Isabella, matching to the  Fewing line?  Wouldn't this suggest a connection like 1st or 2nd cousins between Ann 1794 who married Fewing and my William c1785?

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 12:35 GMT (UK)  »

Would anyone be able to help with my Stanbury ancestors?

We have William Stanbury born c1785 unknown location.  Moves to Portsea and has children there.  Son William is born around 1816, unknown mother.

Elder William married Ann Weable in Portsea (or Eling) and they have more children.

All the children's names I have so far are, William 1816ish, Susanna 1818, John 1821, Ann 1824, George 1826, Mary 1826.
e went to America.
Are you saying William Stanbury (elder) and Ann Weable are the parents of William, Susanna, John, Ann, George and Mary. You haven't provided marriage details but the only marriage/marriage licence details I could find had them marrying 1824.

Sorry, I meant that Ann Weable must be the mother for the children after the marriage but that I wasn't sure if she was the mother of the earlier ones or not.  I've a situation in another part of my tree where a couple had children for about 10 years while the previous wife was still alive, so I didn't know if something similar had happened here!

Daughter Ann Stanbury is baptised March 1824, same month as the marriage to Ann Weable.  So I guess the first three children are from the first wife, and second three from Ann Weable?
There's a William Stanbury, bap 27 Jul 1815, abode Cresswell Court, parents William & Ann, father labourer. You consider/assume him to be the son of William (elder) who later married Ann Weable. Was this confirmed from the marriage cert of Stanbury/Ingram, Holborn 1840?.

Which leaves "William born to William (elder), around 1816,mother unknown" - or am I not reading it correctly. What's the provenance of this William?

Yes, I am pretty sure that 1816 birth is our William b 1816 to William and Ann.

Flemming has now suggested a possible mother for William 1816 who would be the first wife, also Ann, and that's why William the elder was a widower when he married Ann Weable.

There's a 1841 census with William the elder living with youngest daughter Mary in Portsea and he's a victualler.

That matches with the marriage certs of his sons William and John (William the younger signed John's marriage cert.  On this one it says Wiliam sr is deceased, and I believe there is a record of him dying in 1846. So everything on our side fits together nicely.

I'd love to know what happened to the other siblings of William 1816.

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
I've found another DNA match that contains a Peter Stanbury line

Peter Stanbury/Ann Angell
Their son James Stanbury to Mary Gartrell
James's son James to Ellen Jenn

I'm just putting the partial bit in so that it's not revealing anything too private for anyone.

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 10:56 GMT (UK)  »
If it helps, our line is Stanbury x Bevan and has DNA matches to Stanbury x Metters, as well as Stanbury x Angel.

Ann Metters possible bp 1785 Launceston to William x Ann (possibly nee Culliss, married 1785 Launceston).

My line is Stanbury/Fewings/Angel as well.  No Metters or Bevan.

I didn't find Bevan when I searched matches on my account.  It's only now I've got my aunt's results that it's shown up.

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 10:53 GMT (UK)  »

Would anyone be able to help with my Stanbury ancestors?

We have William Stanbury born c1785 unknown location.  Moves to Portsea and has children there.  Son William is born around 1816, unknown mother.

Elder William married Ann Weable in Portsea (or Eling) and they have more children.

All the children's names I have so far are, William 1816ish, Susanna 1818, John 1821, Ann 1824, George 1826, Mary 1826.
e went to America.
Are you saying William Stanbury (elder) and Ann Weable are the parents of William, Susanna, John, Ann, George and Mary. You haven't provided marriage details but the only marriage/marriage licence details I could find had them marrying 1824.

Sorry, I meant that Ann Weable must be the mother for the children after the marriage but that I wasn't sure if she was the mother of the earlier ones or not.  I've a situation in another part of my tree where a couple had children for about 10 years while the previous wife was still alive, so I didn't know if something similar had happened here!

Daughter Ann Stanbury is baptised March 1824, same month as the marriage to Ann Weable.  So I guess the first three children are from the first wife, and second three from Ann Weable?

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 10:25 GMT (UK)  »
Also struggle with this site because of cookies which the mods closed down a thread about several years ago so don’t post regularly any more.

William senior 1785 Lifton to John Stanbury x Susanna Bevan. Married Ann Metters 1814 Plymouth.

The Fewings/Angel connection is uncertain. It could be through Peter Stanbury 1754 Inwardleigh to Samuel Stanbury x Mary Newcombe, but there is a Peter still in Inwardleigh in 1817 (his death) married to Martha Yeo (his Will names her).

I thought this would be a simple surname to research when I first found it in my tree a few years ago. 

I've searched my aunt's DNA matches and, unlike me, she has matches who descend from the Bevan family that Susannah Bevan belonged to. I can't be certain we don't match these people some other way.  This is going to take a lot of research.

I will look up that Metters marriage.  I also want to search for Newcombe because that feels familiar to me somehow.

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Devon / Re: William STANBURY born 4 Oct 1796 Hatherleigh, Devon.
« on: Monday 16 February 26 09:44 GMT (UK)  »
If you're goldfinch99 on Ancestry, we have no DNA connection.

What is the Fewings connection?


No, this isn't my username on Ancestry and the Fewings line DNA match(es) are to my aunt, not to me. I'd rather not post all that info in the public thread but am happy to communicate with possible tree matches privately.

I have sent you a PM but I'm struggling with the interface here.

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