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Given the differences I see between my test and my sisters, she is 32% North East England, I am 49%. I would say any number's below 5% (or maybe more) should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I have been thinking about this.  I think what we need is to see 2 or more siblings plus the parents estimates. Theoretically the parent(s) estimate for the region should be equal or higher than for each of the siblings. 

For instance parent 1 has 30% Irish, parent 2 has 0% Irish. Child one has 25% and child 2 has 15% Irish.

But it might be complicated more than that if an ancestor from the Netherlands moved to England and The Netherlands/Belgium/Germanic shows up for the parent and the English location shows up for the child.

It is hit and miss and I don't think it's worth doing a DNA test just to find out regions, but it is interesting and I do wonder if I do have ancestors from those places,

I did manage to find one ancestor with surname Norton (Suffolk) whose father's name was Norden.  Norden is Netherlands spelling of the same name and may have contributed 1% of the Netherlands/Belgian/Germanic that shows up in my DNA, but as the original immigrant must have arrived 1600s or earlier it can't account for the 15% or so that Ancestry is showing for those regions and none of the other surnames seem like they might be from Europe even taking into account that some immigrants Anglicised their surnames after settling here.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« on: Tuesday 09 December 25 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

   Well, that does rather depend on the size of the match.
   They seem quite recent dates.
   Thomas Blake Glover was an Aberdonian in Japan in 1859.
   It only takes one relative to tramp the world, that is the kind of thing that takes me down a rabbit hole.
   I have a lot of DNA “relatives” who seem to be in America for over 200 years, but the matches seem very consistent so they must be real in some way.
   Have you actually looked at their Origins, one may be 25% Welsh!

I have matches in the US (I am UK) who have pedigree collapse trees and the same individuals turn up four or five times in their trees, I consider these legit matches and just mark them with the name of the common surname in case one day I can work out the common ancestor who had one child stay and one emigrate.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« on: Tuesday 09 December 25 11:24 GMT (UK)  »
I just had to post this supposed 'relative' suggested to me by ancestry on the basis of mutual DNA.  I am 60% welsh 38% English with no ancestors in the USA and certainly not Hawaii.  I suspect the names suggested may not have the same lineage as me...............

I don't think it would show up on Thrulines but some UK people joined the navy (official or unofficial) and travelled to Pacific islands and left descendants there so that you both have common ancestors.

I would love to track the common ancestors for my matches in the Pacific Islands and New Zealand that must be DNA matches by this route.

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The price does seem too low for it to give Y-dna and mitochondrial results, which is a shame as I'd love to know my mt haplogroup. But then I'd want to know the mt and y- haplogroups for all my ancestors.

I have been able to pick out a few (not many) of the Y-DNA haplogroups of my lines by looking through the groups on FTDNA and finding people who are obviously on the same line.


I joined a surname group on FTDNA with the hope that would work for me on the paternal line, but no luck on finding a previous test-taker who was definitely from the right line. It is a technique worth trying though.

Is Wikitree any good for doing this?  I've never joined it but if people add haplogroups there it could be a useful site for this purpose.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: The Demolished Brick Walls Thread
« on: Monday 01 December 25 19:01 GMT (UK)  »
I can see some clusters like that in my matches.  I need to start building trees for places where I can see clusters but can't work out the common ancestor. It's getting tougher to make new discoveries in my tree, so doing this and starting a chromosome browser account need to be my New Year goals and see if I can break down some more walls.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: The Demolished Brick Walls Thread
« on: Monday 01 December 25 16:35 GMT (UK)  »
Further to my post on the previous page, I had finally found the 1700s origin location of my Middleton lineage but I could never figure out the correct wife for Robert Middleton born 1786 in Crowle, Lincolnshire who moved to London and had a son, Robert, in 1817.

I've finally got it. I checked marriage records in London and the villages around Crowle. I couldn't fine the right baptism record.  There are some marriage records but further review showed none of them were the right family as Robert 1786 died (according to my tree) in 1821 so any Robert having children after that year could be ruled out.

Then I found a marriage record that I'd seen before and forgotten. The wife's name was Elizabeth Bulgin and then in my DNA I have a family who have a Bulgin line about 5 generations ago. It's weak but ProTools shows them in the right place with common matches and nothing else on their tree seems to fit with mine.

So they descend from Eliz Bulgin's sister and once I'd added their line to my tree, Ancestry popped up with a Common Ancestor going through the line of another sister of Eliz Bulgin, Which I think is strong enough to say I've found my 4th great grandmother on this line! Finally!

Records suggest that Robert and Elizabeth may have had at least one more child, but there's no confirmation in my DNA. As the child's name is Elizabeth and she was born just over a year from the marriage I think she probably is their daughter and there are living descendants for her, which is cool.

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The price does seem too low for it to give Y-dna and mitochondrial results, which is a shame as I'd love to know my mt haplogroup. But then I'd want to know the mt and y- haplogroups for all my ancestors.

I've ordered but going to try and keep my expectations low.  If the first year's test-takers get helpful results from it and the price stays low, then that might drive a few more people into doing tests.

The more people who test, then the more we can learn even though it is going to be 10% of the people doing the bulk of the research.  I'm happy to do the deep research, I just need the data to work with

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Does anyone have any idea when the first results will be in?  Anyone who's done the new test got an estimate?

Anyone know if it definitely gives mitochondrial and Y-dna?

I've done an Ancestry test and put my Ancestry data onto MH.  A lot of my paternal grandmother's family are on there but not many from other sides.  I've found Ancestry to be about 99% accurate in matches and maybe 90% in which side of the tree they belong to and I've found out so much.  There's still ancestors from pre 1850s that I'm not getting matches for so I wonder if the new MH test would help with things like that.

At this price I just want to find out for myself what the results look like and how to work with them and then I can wait and see if new matches come in eventually.  So I think I'm gonna go for it.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: The Demolished Brick Walls Thread
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 08:14 BST (UK)  »
Good work, 4b2!

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