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Lancashire / Re: John & Thomas Lovell
« on: Sunday 03 November 19 18:40 GMT (UK)  »
After asking my grandfather for any additional information, he thinks he remembers that Thomas was an "indentured servent." Are there records kept for such agreements? Would the servants take the name of the person they were working for?

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Lancashire / Re: John & Thomas Lovell
« on: Wednesday 30 October 19 10:59 GMT (UK)  »
Here are the documents I have found so far. I'm not sure why he waited so long to officially change his name since seems to have always gone by Lovel.

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Lancashire / Re: John & Thomas Lovell
« on: Wednesday 30 October 19 04:11 GMT (UK)  »
First of all I want to express my thanks to everyone for the help.
 Second, I have managed to find handwritten documents from Elgin, Illinois giving more clarification. 

Thomas Smith was adopted by John Lovel of Elgin, Kane County, Illinois. His name was officially changed to Thomas Smith Lovel on 26 Sept 1868. At the time of this name change, Thomas had been a resident of Illinois for at least 11 years. Per his military discharge papers he was born in Manchester and not Lancashire England.

Based on this, I'm thinking the 1860 census with a Thomas living with John and Lucia Lovel is the correct one.

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Lancashire / Re: John & Thomas Lovell
« on: Monday 28 October 19 10:30 GMT (UK)  »
With the different birth years and immigration years, is it possible there were actually two Thomas S Lovells living in the area at the same time?

The specific one I am looking for is the father of Vincent Smith Lovell, born August 31 1875 in Kane County Illinois and died December 22 1965 in Vermilion County Illinois. This Thomas likely enlisted in the military in Geneva, Illl in 1863, was discharged in 1865, and married Frances in 1868 in Kane County, Ill. This one definitely was born in July 1845 in Lankashire and died in December 1916 in Vermilion Illinois.

I have Vincent living with parents Thomas s Lovell and Frances Lovell, as well as siblings Fred J and Chauncy and servent Annie Lester (of England) in the 1880 census in Elgin, Kane, Illinois.

The 1900 census shows a Thomas Lovell (immigrated in 1955 and married in 1871) with a Fanny V (born in Mass.) with children Chancey R, Percey, and William in Wisconsin. The 1905 census shows Thomas with Frances (born in Conn) living with the same children Chauncy, Charles P (likely Percey), and William at the same Wisconsin city.

I think they moved back to Illinois by 1910, with the census showing a Thomas F, Francis V, Channcey R, Charles P, and Geo Wm in Sangamon, Illinois. But they have Thomas as immigrated in 1861.


Frances Lovell is widowed and living with her son Vincent in Vermilion County Illinois per the 1920 census.

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Lancashire / John & Thomas Lovell
« on: Monday 28 October 19 00:42 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find a John Lovell and his son Thomas S Lovell, but I can not find any records for them in Lancashire.

Per Thomas' death record,

Thomas S. Lovell
Birth Date: 25 July 1845
Birthplace: Lankashire, England
Death: 5 December 1916
Death Location: Vermilion County, Illinois, US
Fathers Name: John Lovell

John & Thomas immigrated to the US, probably via NYC, sometime between 1845 and 1860.

Per the 1860 census:
John & Thomas were living in Plato, Kane County, Illinois, USA with a Lucia Lovell born abt 1816 in New York and Emma Lovell born abt 1849 New Jersey. John's birth was estimated as 1813.

Thomas married Frances Virginia Lyon on May 21, 1868 in Kane County, Illinois.

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: I am completely stuck!!!
« on: Tuesday 15 October 19 01:43 BST (UK)  »
1842   

April 18, 1842
Birth of Edward
England, United Kingdom

May 12, 1842
Baptism of Edward
BRIERLEY HILL, STAFFORD, England

1851
Age 8
Residence
Brierley Hill, Kingswinford, Worcestershire, England

1861
Age 18
Residence
Kingswinford, Worcestershire, England

1863   
August 9, 1863
Age 21
Marriage of Edward to Hannah Jones
Pensnett, Stafford, England

1867
Age 24
Birth of Myra Minnie Bromley
Brierly Hill, Staffordshire, England

1868
Age 25
Immigration   

1870   
Age 27
Residence
Catlin Township, Vermilion County, IL, United States

1871
Age 28
Birth of Thomas 'Buck' Jones
Illinois, United States

1875   

March 24, 1875
Age 32
Birth of Cora L Bromley
Danville, Vermilion County, IL, United States

1875
Age 32
Birth of Louisa Jones
Illinois, United States


1880
Age 37
Residence
Danville Township, Vermilion County, IL, United States

1882   
November 5, 1882
Age 40
Birth of Gertrude Ellen Van Houtin
Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois, USA

1886   
November 15, 1886
Age 44
Birth of Ruth Lucelia Commins
Danville, Vermilion, Illinois, United States

1900
Age 57
Residence
Cayuga, Vermillion County, IN, United States

1910   
July 7, 1910
Age 68
Death of Edward
Indiana, United States

July 10, 1910
Age 68
Burial of Edward
Danville, Vermilion, IL

1910
Age 67
Residence
Cayuga, Vermillion County, IN, United States

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: I am completely stuck!!!
« on: Monday 14 October 19 21:21 BST (UK)  »

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I'm fairly confident they immigrated to the US in 1868 and are buried in Illinois.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/46751478/hannah-jones
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/46751458/edward-jones


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