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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« on: Monday 23 September 24 17:18 BST (UK)  »
I’m trying to link these Ramsdens - John Henry Ramsden 1888-1934 & his father Rhodes Ludlam Ramsden, born in Huddersfield in 1855 came down from Henry Ramsden 1764-1804 born in Elland

With these Ramsdens:

Ramsden, Rowland   Ref 56-163
[1759-1835]
Son of Thomas Ramsden.
Born in Halifax.

Halifax attorney. He lived and practised at Barum Top House.

On 3rd November 1789, he married Mary Alderson [1768-1794] in Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire.

Child: Agnes Bickerstaff [1793-1858] who married John Rhodes Ralph

In 1785, he inherited £100 from his grandfather Rowland Watson.

He lived [1820], and died, at Gomersal

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« on: Monday 23 September 24 16:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi, thanks, I’ve seen those links, but struggled to find an overlapping Ramsden. I found them quite awkward to use as I couldn’t figure out a way to search them

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« on: Monday 23 September 24 13:44 BST (UK)  »
I’m on a bit of a mission, though it may prove to be fruitless.

I recently had my DNA tested via Ancestry & have made a fascinating connection with the Kenny’s of Ballinrobe, Mayo. One member of the family David Courtney Kenny 1779-1847, Lt. Gen. in the Madras Army appears to have had a child out of wedlock by a South African woman. His illegitimate son went on to produce heirs, 2 generations later, a daughter Violet Johanna Maria Kenney 1881- 1973 married an immigrant from the U.K. in the Cape, South Africa. His name was John Henry Ramsden 1888-1934 & his father Rhodes Ludlam Ramsden, born in Huddersfield in 1855 came down from Henry Ramsden 1764-1804 born in Elland.

Now, my DNA match to the Kenny’s of Ballinrobe led me to an ancestor Agnes Bickerstaff Ramsden born Halifax in 1793 who married John Rhodes Ralph born Halifax 1786. BTW these connections come via Burke, B. (1912). A genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Ireland. Harrison & sons, so pretty trustworthy I’d say.

The thing that has grabbed my interest is the surname Ramsden from Yorkshire plus the middle name Rhodes, both of which appear prominently in my maternal line, along with the name Ludlam. I’ve done some reading & realise Ramsden & Yorkshire is like Cheddar & cheese, but the coincidence of both those names coming together by marriage in Halifax has made me wonder if my maternal line is somehow connected to the other Ramsden line.

I’ve tried unsuccessfully so far to find a common denominator ancestor, hence my post here - are there any Ramsden experts who may be able to help me link the 2 different branches? 🤞🏻

I’m looking forward to hearing from you.

Cheers

Chawi

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Scotland / Re: Where might this be?
« on: Wednesday 19 July 23 09:47 BST (UK)  »
Ah, excellent, thanks for that resource 👏🏻👏🏻

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Scotland / Re: Where might this be?
« on: Tuesday 18 July 23 20:59 BST (UK)  »
Mmm, there’s the rub Forfarian, not to be trusted!

How are you accessing this census data? I find it pretty hit & miss, but you seem to have got the hang of it

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Scotland / Re: Where might this be?
« on: Tuesday 18 July 23 18:49 BST (UK)  »
Valid points there Forfarian, are there searchable apprentice lists perhaps? I see mention comes up periodically 🤔 If we could make this connection it would go some way to solving where Slater came from, even William tbh.

I just feel there is a missing link somewhere - how did we go from James Brown gamekeeper to Henry Raeburn tailor? I wonder if a sibling “James” perhaps died early, also, only 2 children Ann & Henry is really unusual for the period.

I wish we were dealing with Cornish records, they are far more comprehensive, sigh…

As for the other mystery, no, not Scotland at all, rather Denmark, South Africa & Rhodesia

Another mystery I’ve stumbled on is the father of Roberts Dods 1650-1675 b Dunbar called Dods of Dunbar who is 3rd GGF to Sir William Slater Brown’s wife Margaret Dodds 1840-1912, is missing parents. Others claim it is Nicolaus Dunbar 1625-1665, but he was born in Elgin, so over 200 miles from Dunbar. That doesn’t make sense unless the Dods of Dunbar refers to Nicolaus Dunbar rather than the place. What do you think?

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Scotland / Re: Where might this be?
« on: Tuesday 18 July 23 06:43 BST (UK)  »
Sigh, it was fun cobbling together though…..

Actually, the previous contributor c-side who tracked down Janet Richardson’s family did a pretty good job, they all checked out so far except the sibling Robert. It’s just James Brown’s side that remains stubbornly blank.

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Scotland / Re: Where might this be?
« on: Monday 17 July 23 18:47 BST (UK)  »
Well then Forfarian, you are my husband’s first cousin by marriage 😉

So on to my wild theory - James Brown & Janet Richardson seem to be ghosts, appearing from nowhere, sadly the previous poster who was looking into Janet appears to now be deceased, so we can’t even ask her what she found 🙁

This total lack of a history for James & the sudden appearance of the persisting Henry Raeburn name is eerily coincidental considering the shared connection with Stockbridge, don’t you agree?

Read this https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146663917

Some theories: first, James Brown is in fact a descendant of this James Brown, or second, perhaps the ghost James had a secret second life in Jamaica? Yet another theory is the family in Edinburgh that Isabella got sent to was the Slater Brown descendant? The fact that her portrait was painted by Raeburn perhaps sparked the name being adopted so firmly for so many generations?

Another thought is James Brown the ghost was somehow a recipient of the uplift of Stockbridge that is attributed directly to Raeburn https://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/edinburgh/stockbridge/index.html & James then used his name for his son as a token of appreciation?

Lastly, this was suggested by a recently discovered 3rd cousin, “The story I have been told is that one of my great, great, great grandfathers was a Taylor and a Neighbour of the portrait artist Henry Raeburn and because they were friends, this is where the name came from.”

I’m assuming you have easier access to records in Edinburgh, so perhaps one of these theories sparks your interest & you fancy a challenge 🤔

Finally, I found a link to a biography of the portrait artist written by his great grandson that may/may not hold some tantalising clues…

https://electricscotland.com/history/other/Life-of-Sir-Henry-Raeburn.pdf

I would chase this down but I’m neck deep in an MSc, so dare not 😂


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Scotland / Re: Where might this be?
« on: Monday 17 July 23 16:08 BST (UK)  »
Just a quick one, are you referring to Jeremy whose father William was an MD? If yes, you are definitely family!

I will launch into my wild theory this evening when I have some time.

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