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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Woking Invalid Prison in Surrey
« on: Monday 07 October 19 16:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi @CommonSensor, @Pandy is absolutely right, the Quarterly Returns are your best port of call.

Aside from going to the NA, Findmypast has added these to their online resources (however the transcription is a bit shoddy and you have to normally go back a number of pages to find out which prison/quarter is being reported on).

If you're interested, i'm currently working on a research project exploring the history and individual lives of inmates who served time at Woking Convict Invalid Prison.


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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Invalid Prison Woking Surrey
« on: Wednesday 02 October 19 11:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Grampy1, in answer to your question about what type of prison it was, Woking Invalid Convict Prison was the first purpose built, permanent prison was mentally and physically disabled prisoners. It was typically a dumping ground for those who acquired disability or illnesses whilst serving their sentences elsewhere. Woking had up to date facilities, trained medical staff and could manage a whole host of maladies which other prisons could not.

Regarding Guest, I will be researching him in future and i'll be sure to let you know when I do.


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The Common Room / Re: Free Resource and Information on Convicted Ancestors
« on: Friday 27 September 19 19:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

Apologies for the delay, it's been a really busy period of research for us and Surrey life have kindly written an article about us, gratified doesn't even cover it!

@Ruskie thank you so much for the tips, i'll be sure to put them to good use.

@Majm aha apologies, I do a bit of creative writing in my spare time and sometimes I run amok with rhetorical flare. But the truth is, many of our convicts at Woking Invalid Convict Prison
were unable to tell their own stories at that time, whether through illiteracy or, quite simply, society didn't care. So long as they were seen to be punished, that was enough. Redemption was
not offered either by state or by society at large. Even William Strahan, our most famous inmate and instigator of the Oxford v. Cambridge Boat Race, practically disappeared from the historical record post serving his sentence. It's great to see so many new sites pop up looking to research these institutions: history from below at it's finest.

 @Maiden Stone that's a really interest poin. England implemented an act (Criminal Law Act 1776) so that any criminal sentenced to transportation during that period was instead forced to carry out hard labour. Mass transportation didn't take place in England again until the first transports to Australia in 1787If you PM me the name of your person of interest, i'd be more than happy to take a look.

@SilasWall Thank you, thank you! Any ways in which we can improve it, we'd gratefully accept any suggestion.

@Lidfam In terms of our current research project Woking Invalid Prison, the years covered are 1859-1889 and so we're covered by the 100 years rule. However to your second point,
you are able to view prison records from 1770-1935 on FindMyPast. Like @Maiden Stone, we'd be more than happy to research your ancestor or find relevant records.

@Coombes I really appreciate that! It's crazy how many people were transported for such trifling reasons. In a way your relatives were fortunate to end up in Oz, as in the latter
period many men who were meant to be transported actually ended up on 'prison hulks' where disease was rife.

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The Common Room / Re: Free Resource and Information on Convicted Ancestors
« on: Wednesday 25 September 19 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ruskie!

Thank you kindly and I'm glad you like the site. I've been perusing rootschat for years so it's great to finally be able to give back  ;D

Which forums/threads would you recommend to get involved in for prisons/institutions?

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The Common Room / Free Resource and Information on Convicted Ancestors
« on: Wednesday 25 September 19 14:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

I hope you're having a fantastic Wednesday!

Let me introduce myself. I'm a budding twenty something year old historian whose always been fascinated by the past: in particular, peripheral people's. What started out as a dissertation on dwarves in ancient greece (that's the shortened version ::)) ended up as, researching fom friends and family their disabled or imprisoned ancestors.

What I discovered, was a distinct lack of easy to access, free prison/institution resources (short of a train ride to the NA or BL) and so I and a friend have decided to create one  ;D (yes we are fully sane!).

The website is completely free and a labor of love (like labor too it has been bloody painful at times  ;D) but if you are researching your imprisoned ancestors, feel free to check out our site institutionalhistory.com.

Otherwise, we look forward to taking a more active part in this community! Hello  :)


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