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Just a thought - "adopted" on a Birth Certificate does not always mean Adopted out of a family, it can mean Step parent Adoption - the Mother may marry and the husband wishes to adopt the child, the Biological mother has to adopt the child too this is due to a technicality and parental responsibility, it is legally similar to a full adoption - and there will be an adoption file, social service reports, court papers, an entry in the adopted children register and an adoption certificate, there will be no public online index of any adoption be it handled through local authority or agency or step parent.
The adopted parents will be entered on the adoption certificate - the Mother will appear in her married name with no reference to her maiden or former names.

Hi James Ruddy and Bridget Barrett were my Great Grandparents, as you probably know James lived a good age. I do have his parents, but a bit vague beyond that due to lack of records. I do have some other info if you would like to PM. All Best

Hi Linzi - I am married to Bronc's son - Beanie and Bronc and Millie have now sadly passed away - but yes  Phoebe was Bert's sister - how  amazing, I have done a Tree on Ancestry, sadly not done much since Bert died, but the bare bones are there, they were all descended from the Romany folk that lived on Barnes common