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Lancashire / Re: Croft / Iveson of Manchester question.
« on: Monday 05 January 26 12:27 GMT (UK)  »
For anyone coming along in future years: I have the marriage certificate of Albert Edward Croft ( alias Bernard Allen Croft DOB around 1879). The father is listed correctly as Francis Croft a deceased house steward (he was a domestic butler in 1881 and died 1895). The witness Caroline Croft was Alberts sister (born as Sarah Louisa Caroline Croft). I also have a later electoral register of 1931: 16 Fleeson St Rusholme: living together are Ada Croft, Albert Edward Croft, son Bernard Alan Croft and his wife Margaret Croft.

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Lancashire / Re: Croft / Iveson of Manchester question.
« on: Friday 19 December 25 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
I've attached a copy of the newspaper article of 1952. I don't think the judge liked Bernard very much: 'selfish morose and difficult'. Does anyone think it likely that Albert Edward Croft called himself Bernard just for the marriage to Ada? Perhaps he had a past that he was trying to escape? Debts or another marriage, or time in Strangeways prison?
The reason I'm looking for such a person like Bernard (B.1905) is that my wife's DNA test implies a connection at the third cousin level to south Manchester. My wife's grandmother who was born in 1905 in Chorlton might well have known a young man of the same age. The DNA test links to this extended family (Tanner / Croft / Buxton).

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Lancashire / Croft / Iveson of Manchester question.
« on: Friday 19 December 25 13:05 GMT (UK)  »
I have census records for an Albert Edward Croft (B. 1880) and his wife Ada Elizabeth Croft (b. 1881) along with son Bernard Croft (B. 1905). They are found in 1901, 1911 and in 1939 with Ada a widow and Bernard living a few doors away on Fleeson st Manchester. This all looks quite straightforward until I look for a birth for Bernard around 1905: I find a birth with mother Iveson. When I look for a marriage for an Ada Elizabeth Iveson I can only find one to a Bernard Croft, nothing for Albert Croft. Everyone seems to live in the same area of South Manchester, I can find a divorce for Bernard Croft (B.1905 of Fleeson St) in a newspaper article of 1952. There seem to be two marriages one to a Marg Rhodes, another to Doris Burton( possibly bigamous?), finally the divorce in 1951.
Can anyone find a convincing marriage for the Albert – Ada- Bernard Croft family please.
Thanks
Dave

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moved to lancs.

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Hi
I came across this post many years after it was posted. I am researching my wife's family, which includes a connection via DNA to the Croft,Riddick line. I did find the Crofts very confusing as I think some of the children were born out of wedlock with surname Riddick and middle name Croft. Then later children born following a Croft Riddick marriage. My particular interest is in the Croft line that moved up to South Manchester, where they continue to confuse me. Anyone have a connection to Bernard Croft born 1905 Chorlton?

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London and Middlesex / Re: Bishonden Winchcombe
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 15:41 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Jorose, this is the first Occasional Copy: B that I have seen. I have seen an 'A' before.
At what date do the cheaper electronic copies become available, rather than the more expensive PDF?

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London and Middlesex / Bishonden Winchcombe
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 12:46 BST (UK)  »
I have a rather odd pair of births registered in Wandsworth: Thora Winchcombe 1910 1d 586. AND Wandsworth 1911 1d 579. But also a Thora Bishonden born 1911 Wandsworth 1d 579.
They all seem to be the same person, but the GRO site does not have all of these registrations: there is no female Bishonden birth recorded at this time.
I also have a certificate for the marriage of Thora Winchcombe with father Thomas Charles Winchcombe in 1933 to a Williams.
Why has the GRO site not indexed all the entries? however odd they may appear.
Dave

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Suffolk / Re: Pipe of Ipswich
« on: Tuesday 01 April 25 16:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I seem to have come to this after several years, so I don't know if anyone will reply. I see that Zulukraal has the following names listed: Delanghe, Hammond, Pipe and Prance. I have been chasing up the Prance family tree, so the connection is via Winifred Mary Prance B. 1883 and her brother Miles Herbert Prance B. 1868. I am particularly interested in Miles Herbert Prance and perhaps his sons (Miles Howard and Herbert Guy Prance). I would be grateful for any information on this family. I have all the usual census data, but sometimes family recollections carry so much more weight. I have a tree on Ancestry for the Prance family.
Dave

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The Common Room / Re: Adoption records
« on: Monday 02 December 24 16:48 GMT (UK)  »
No, sorry for the confusion. The free BMD entry was for Joyce Annette NASH. The GRO had shown it as Nach. I am still chasing Josephine Nash born 1925 Manchester S. Both people have that odd entry: occasional copy:A. It is a slight possibility that both people were born to the same mother and then adopted .


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