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Antrim / Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« on: Monday 02 September 19 17:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,
  Yes I have been advised by a Clements cousins (through our DNA connection) that Elizabeth was not an Agnew, but a McDowell.  When she died, Eliza Clements was present and this was the Eliza Agnew who married James Clements.
   I can now make sense of Daniel McGookin being executor for Elizabeth Clements, as her husband Henry a farmer/grocer, was his cousin.  Henry and James were the sons of Andrew Clements; Martha Clements brother. So no further confusion.
   Thank you for your comments,
CL
Hi CL,
I'm new to this research, so any guidance would be appreciated. My interest is in James Clements b~1817,d.24/2/1890 and married to Elizabeth Agnew 18/8/1850. They had six children :Maggie;Andrew;Martha Jane; Thomas John; James and Henry.
I agree that James' wife, Eliza Clements of Headwood is likely to be the person present at the death of Eliza Clements Craiganorne (widow of a weaver) on 3/9/1885.
There is obviously a connection between the two Clements families, but I'm struggling to make it!

In the 1851 census there is a linen weaver: Henry age 46 married in 1839 to Eliza age 36 since 1839 with a son called Andrew age either 7 or 1 and a mother-in-law called Marget Wallace.
So this entry has a Henry, an Eliza and an Andrew almost all the right ages. But a M-i-L called Wallace not McDowell

There is a record of a teacher Andrew Clements marrying Mary Gilmour (15/7/1867) and their eldest living  child in 1885 was a Margaret Eleanor living in Annahilt. Margaret Eleanor is a beneficiary in Eliza's (Craiganorne) Will as a granddaughter. One of her five siblings was named Isabella McDowell Clements so there is a case that was certainly a family name. If Henry was 46 in 1851 he wouldn't be far away from the Henry Clements listed as a son of John Clements/Elizabeth Kirk born 6/2/1809. They also had a son James b. 12/2/1807, but that can't be my James as he's 10 years too old and his father is John not Andrew.
So questions!
The Martha Clements that married William McGookin on 17/4/1823. Was she a sister of Henry (linen weaver),  Henry (Clements/Kirk) or even related at all?
Daniel McGookin b. 1827,d.15/10/1894 who married Elizabeth Crowe ~1860, had a son Samuel Alexander b. 20/8/1868 who ended up being an executor for Thomas John Clements in a reprise of the previous generation.

Any tips on how to trace James Clements?

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Antrim / Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« on: Tuesday 13 August 19 10:27 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much Kiwi Rose for sharing that information. :)
I agree with everything about James Clements. His father Andrew is a mystery though and I have now dismissed a direct connection to the Clements /Kirk family.
I will explore the John Agnew family for Betty's connections.
Whakawhetai LfF

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Antrim / Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« on: Thursday 08 August 19 09:58 BST (UK)  »
The Elizabeth (Betty) Agnew, muddled up in the previous replies 13 & 14, is, I believe, the mother of Thomas John Clements b 1858
Can anyone help with this timeline please?
Thomas John Clements born c1858 and his Grandfather David Agnew was born c1840?

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Antrim / Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« on: Wednesday 07 August 19 21:33 BST (UK)  »
I have been chipping away at some family details since viewing the 1885 will written by Elizabeth (Eliza) Clements nee Agnew.
Could the date confusion be because the Will of Eliza Clements was not Eliza nee Agnew but rather Eliza nee Wallace? She is listed as the widow of a weaver who could have been Henry Clements, possibly another brother of Martha?

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Antrim / Re: Ettie Hamilton/Moore. Where are you?
« on: Wednesday 07 August 19 11:38 BST (UK)  »
I have not been able to find Etta in the 1911 census either.
There was a Henrietta Hamilton, daughter of James living in Woodstock Road which is not far from Euston Street but they are all from Derry/Londonderry. On that particular record there is a transcription error with her age shown as 34 but is actually 24 - is this common?

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Antrim / Re: Ettie Hamilton/Moore. Where are you?
« on: Tuesday 06 August 19 20:22 BST (UK)  »
As far As i can see Henry and Henrietta had a son William James b.4/1/1906
He lived just over a year and died on 17/1/1907 in Holywood, with Henry listed as a 'milkserver'.
The only likely Etta Moore that I can find died on 8/2/1915 in Whiteabbey, (where she was married), widower Henry Moore, Barn Hills, Carrickfergus.

I hope this helps Kiwi Rose - we probably share some common ancestry through the Moore family.

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Antrim / Re: Ettie Hamilton/Moore. Where are you?
« on: Tuesday 06 August 19 16:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the welcome KG.
I'm new to this malarkey so please forgive my lack of etiquette.
I wondered if 'Drains' referred to Drains Bay - on the coastal side of Cairncastle? Henrietta was most likely staying with her daughter Mary. Sallagh is in the mountains on the other side (mostly sheep farming) - now made famous as a location in the 'game of thrones'.

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Antrim / Re: Ettie Hamilton/Moore. Where are you?
« on: Tuesday 06 August 19 15:55 BST (UK)  »
Henrietta Hamilton b. 4/4/1880
Father James, Sallagh Cairncastle
Mother Henrietta (McMeekin).
James H is in the 1901 census
Mother Henrietta died 19/8/1917

Can't find much on Ettie though.

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