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yes, not a very good remedy as quite a few of us would include Cavan.  I'm sure I missed this information for a few years because of it.  It was only when I started to drop specific filters in most of my searches that a whole new word opened up for me.  That would include Roots Ireland as well many other sites.  Put in very little information and that will yield far more.  Patterns of obvious error start to materialize. 

Thank you KG - I have seen that allright - was lucky enough to find it as it doesn't search under Co. Cavan.  Its mistakenly found under Co. Down.  I've tried to report the error but I can't get the link to do it right for some reason.  Now it's those neighbors of John Rutherford that I would love to have a chat with!  Wrights, Reillys, Kearneys, Pritehard, and the Widow Anne Smith.

Thank you SM!  I am going to try to message you privately as I would love to compare your DNA results with you being from around that area.  I have a pretty good knowledge of how to use the DNA sites.  There's also the Census in the 1820's which can be found on Findmypast.com.  It's a paying site.  Not all the areas are on there but there are some parts of Cavan.  There's also Roots Ireland which is another paying site but I couldn't live without it.  We have plenty of relations buried in the Middle Chapel.  I have now messaged Johnathan Smyth in the only way I can find to make contact.  The previous email I had was no longer functional.  I would need the Church of Ireland Records.  I have been in contact with several of their churches in the last 2 years and did get a bit of information all right but they sent their books off to Dublin, whatever books they had, and a woman was kind enough to give me something before they shipped them off.  I would love to get a look through the books myself. 

There is also a John Rutherford who had a notions and linnen shop on Main St. Cootehill, 1830's, as was seen in a businesses census of the area, and I wonder if he is the same John Rutherford from Drumgreen.

Anyway, at this point if there's someone out there who is related to the Wrights, Reillys, Kearneys, Pritchard, and Smiths of Drumgreen 1800-1850, I would love to hear from them. Perhaps compare DNA! 

Twinshoes

Thank you Kiltaglassan!

Thank you LH!

Hi G, I am so sorry to not see these replies last year.  My father was very sick just about that time and I guess I was consumed with that.  My father was Jude (John) Rutherford.  He would be the man who had the corn thrashing machine.  He probably built it himself because that was the kind of person he was.  He built everything. 

Is it possible that you can email me directly?  I dont know if I'm allowed to give email addresses on this site?

John Rutherford, B1864, was my father's grandfather.  He was def born in Cavan.  I believe it was Caldry and he was a neighbor of the McGahan's.  Mary Anne McGahan, his wife, was also def born there in Caldry.  The Census is wrong but it wouldn't be the first time. They did spend some years in New York and some of their children were born in NYC. 

 I would like to know if Mary Anne McGahan's mother was a Ryder or a Markey however.  So if you have anything solid on that it would be appreciated.  I've seen it both ways in the records so she must have been a widow and remarried but her maiden name is what I would be after to get the bloodline.

Can you tell me more about the McCauley's.  You mentioned them briefly.  I think there was another Matthew McCauley in Cootehill, originally from Ballybay, spent years in New Zealand, and returned to Ireland, living in Cootehill.  He might have been a doctor.  His name was Rutherford as well and he was involved with Reid/Mayne/Brown's  - Presbyterian.

I'm really trying to go back pre1850.  That's my main goal.  I am looking for the family of Robert Rutherford, born about 1824, probably in Drumgreen.  He was John Rutherford's (1864) father.  And Robert's father was John Rutherford who would have been born about 1780 - 1800.  That's my main goal.  I don't know if an ad  in the Celt would help me with this.  It's the Protestant graveyard that might be better.   

The Murphy's are related to Tomas Rutherford's wife, Maura.  They are in touch with her and me too through the DNA sites.

Thanks for all your digging.  Let me know if I can email you.
Twinshoes
Twinshoes

yes, that Robert Rutherford that married Mary Jamison (Widow Jamieson) in 1964, is my 2nd great grandfather.  Most of those listed are my ancestors.  There are only 3 that I do not know - Letitia Rutherford, Mathew (McCauley) Rutherford, and the death of Margaret Rutherford.  I have seen their names many times in my searches but maybe I will order the actual transcript of the records as they might yield a bit more information.  I did that for wedding Registry of Robert in 1964 and that's how I know "John" Rutherford is his father.  How I would love to know who is mother was....I'd give an eye tooth for that info.  I also found out that Mary Gray (who is the Widow Jamieson) came from Drumnagran.  Her father was Robert Gray, a shoe maker.  Funny, my father is a shoe maker in his spare time!  Anything else you might know, I would love to hear.  Thank you!