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I wonder if I can line up any of these names. I'm assuming they may be siblings of Bridget/other children of Thomas and Mary. These are the only other related Kelly names I have, from Bridget Kelly (Fearon)'s children's baptisms.

1856: Peter Kelly and Pat Rice - witness at wedding of Bridget Kelly to Matthew Fearon (Dromintee 21 Oct 1856)

1857: Peter Kelly and Eliza McArdle sponsors at daughter Mary Fearon's baptism (Dromintee 25 Jul 1857)

1869: Michael Kelly and Bridget Kelly sponsors at son Edward Fearon's baptism (Meigh 1 Nov 1869)

1875: Thomas Kelly and Elizabeth Kelly of Aughnalloy sponsors at son Michael Feron's baptism (Aughyalloge 25 May 1875)


Michael Kelly who marries Ann Finnegan also has a Thomas Kelly listed as the witness for his daughter Betty Kelly's birth (Aghayalloge, 22 Aug 1865), which could be a brother or father. Though my Thomas Kelly is the witness to his granddaughter Catherine Fearon's birth in 1864 and is listed as "grandfather", but the Thomas Kelly witness at Betty Kelly's birth isn't listed as such - still could be him though.

No Kelly shown in Tythe valuation for Aghayalloge. No obvious baptisms at all with father Thomas Kelly in Upper Killeavy Catholic parish records in 1830-1850 period. Makes me suspect the family moved there are some point after children born? [Excluding a solitary 1843 baptism with address Meigh]

OP - what was the family's religion?

The family were Roman Catholic. And I have seen the 1843 Meigh baptism as well and thought it could be connected, but not enough info to say, really!

Hi all,

Struggling here. I have a man named Thomas Kelly of Aghayalloge, Upper Killeavy, Co Armagh.
He dies on 27 May 1894 and according to his death certificate is age 67 (b. circa 1827) and was a widow and farmer of Aghayalloge. Witness was Anne Kelly, present at death, also of Aghayalloge (relationship unknown.)

I am looking for this man's wife - as she was already deceased by the time he died in 1894.
I don't know his wife's first name, or any other information at all, and have struggled to find anything by searching manually. Can anyone find a death certificate between 1840 and 1894 of a Mrs Kelly in Aghayalloge?

All I know is they have one confirmed daughter - Bridget or Biddy Kelly, born circa 1840. She did live in Aghayalloge as well but would have gone by her married name of McAteer after 1856. If there's no records in Aghayalloge then i'll have to widen the search.

Many thanks
Ali

Have you found this person on other census records please? Or a baptism or marriage?

Just wondering if the birth place is clearer - although I don't expect you would be asking if you had found them previously!

Sadly not. His name is Joseph Williamson and only appears to my knowledge in this 1851 census with his wife Mary (from Wales, nee Roberts) and his kids. His approximate date of birth from the census is 1795.

His wife appears on the 1841 census in Warrington (address is "back of brick street") but I've never found him on it, and it seems he dies in 1857 so no more later censuses sadly! He marries in St Elphins, Warrington in 1820, but no birthplace given.

Could you please give us the name of the person and the reference, sometimes it has been copied clearer on other sites

The transcription/reference on Ancestry for the census is here if it helps:

Name   Joseph Williamson
Age   56
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1795
Relation   Head
Spouse's Name   Mary Williamson
Gender   Male
Where born   F??lan, Lancashire, England
Civil parish   Warrington
Town   Warrington
County/Island   Lancashire
Country   England
Registration district   Warrington
Sub-registration district   Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel   1o
Neighbors   View others on page
Household schedule number   91
Piece   2203
Folio   396
Page number   22

Hi all,

Digging into my 2x great grandfather's ancestry, he worked on fairgrounds as a roustabout and it seems his ancestors may be of some traveller background. I'm interested especially in the surnames Cooper (Warrington/Salford), Walker (Salford) Williamson (Warrington) and Roberts (North Wales).

Does anyone know of any Romany gypsy families living in Salford/Manchester/Warrington etc in the 19th-20th century with these names? I know they're quite common in both Romany and non Romany communities. I'd love to know any general info about any gypsy families in the area by those names.


For more context I'm researching the children of James Cooper (wire worker from Wilderspool Warrington b.1822) and Sarah/Jane Williamson (b.1821 Warrington) - the family is made up of wire workers/wire weavers, flower-makers and general labourers - which are apparently all common gypsy/traveller occupations (especially flower making). Their descendants also tend to marry or lodge with other possible Romany people (Smith, Moore etc)
No marriage has been found for James and Sarah yet.

They/their descendants move addresses between most censuses but not excessively, moving streets but remaining in similar areas of Salford. I have travellers in other branches of my family so am familiar with them covering large amounts of ground, but i'm still unsure about this branch. No references to them as gipsies, tinkers, travellers passing through etc which is why i'm not sure. Any info about if Romany communities by these names were known in the area would be great help.
Thanks all x