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The Common Room / Re: Falsified age on marriage licence?
« on: Thursday 27 November 25 09:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your replies and confirmation marriage licences weren't immune from fibs about age. 

I was certain I had the correct baptism for the man, along with a few other records that support it, but it making him so much younger was causing me to have doubts.  The bride's father and aunt signed as witnesses on the marriage register, so the bride's family must have been involved at least.

As an aside, I wonder was getting married in London a fashionable thing to do, or any other reasons why couples might do this?  I have several marriages in my tree, where the couples lived in an entirely different county (Wilts, Northants, etc) but married in London, before returning to said county...

Thank you

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The Common Room / Falsified age on marriage licence?
« on: Thursday 27 November 25 09:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Just curious for thoughts on whether ancestors would lie about their age on a marriage licence?  I know there were many occasions when they lied about how old there were in BMDs and censuses, etc, but just wondered specifically about marriage licences? Would it be a risky thing to do, would there have been checks, or would it have been just as easy as lying on any other document?

I’m curious because I ordered a copy of my great(x4) grandparents' marriage licence from 1802.  It states both parties were over the age of 21, but after further researching my great(x4) grandfather, I have reason to believe that he was younger, more like 18.  Meaning there was an almost 8 year age gap between himself and the bride (who was 25 and must have been pregnant at the time, as their first child was born 7 months after the marriage).

(Both families were non-conformists from Wiltshire, but for some reason they travelled to London and married at St George, Bloomsbury, before returning to Wiltshire).

I’ve ordered several marriage licences over the years, most have the standard wording “over the age of 21 years” and I’ve had only one for a bride that was underage.  I’m aware marriage licences were used for various reasons, including if one or both parties were underage, but this licence doesn’t state that he’s under 21.  I wonder whether he or other relations didn't want to disclose the age gap or is that unlikely?

Thank you in advance

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Northamptonshire / Re: London Road Cemetery, Wellingborough
« on: Tuesday 03 August 21 16:22 BST (UK)  »
I managed to track down the location of the burial registers for Doddington Road and London Road cemeteries in 2018.  I was told they are held by a company contracted by the council to maintain the cemeteries, called Wellingborough Norse.  I contacted the company, they took the registers from the safe to do a quick cursory search for me but had no luck because apparently the registers are in no chronological or logical order.  Very frustrating knowing two of my ancestors must be in there!  I’m surprised they’re not being transcribed, or transferred to the record office or something.  Though I don't know if the situation has changed since I contacted them...

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London and Middlesex / Re: Marriage Bond/Allegation Locations - Where to contact?
« on: Thursday 12 March 20 23:16 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much for your reply Bookbox! I'd been reading similar info in various other places but hadn't been able to make sense of it, but your answer was very clear, thank you.

I've now been able to locate the both licence dates on FindMyPast, one in the Vicar General and the other in the Faculty Office.

Many thanks!

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London and Middlesex / Marriage Bond/Allegation Locations - *Completed*
« on: Thursday 12 March 20 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I wonder if some kind person could point me in the right direction…

I have two couples in my tree who married by licence in London and I’d like to find if there are any surviving bonds/allegations.  I’ve tried to find out what archives or locations I need to contact but I am finding myself still pathetically confused.

Any help with what places I should be contacting would be much appreciated. Thank you!  :)

The marriages are:
Thomas SCOTT = Catherine MULLINS
1802 - St George, Bloomsbury, Camden
and
David ANDERSON = Ann BRYAN
1809 - St James, Piccadilly, Westminster



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The Common Room / Re: Writing to a relative...
« on: Tuesday 09 July 19 21:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you sparrett and ThrelfallYorky!  ;D  I've not discounted the idea of writing entirely and will certainly adopt your suggestion of starting simple if I do sparrett. :)

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The Common Room / Re: Writing to a relative...
« on: Saturday 06 July 19 22:23 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for everyone's replies and thoughts on this.  My feeling certainly was that this could be difficult especially as we're not really relatives, so I think I'll put aside my Mum's suggestion of writing for now. Thank you.

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The Common Room / Re: Writing to a relative...
« on: Saturday 06 July 19 20:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Saturday 06 July 19 18:05 BST (UK)
If the husband of Dorothy was a soldier it is possible that the childrens births were registered as 'overseas births' and appear on the GRO indexes for such births.  https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/british-armed-forces-and-overseas-births-and-baptisms

Thanks for this suggestion Rosie :)  The nearest birth record is six years after their marriage date so doesn't appear likely unfortunately.  I'd looked at overseas marriages when I was first searching for the marriage as well but without success, and that eventually turned up at a local church in Malta.

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The Common Room / Writing to a relative...
« on: Saturday 06 July 19 15:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi,  I’m relatively new to the forum (though have been a background lurker for a while) and was just wondering if I could ask your thoughts please on the etiquette of contacting some one…

My Granny grew up with only her parents and was desperate to know where she came from and more importantly if she had any family out there.  So my Mum and I began researching 20 years ago and found Granny had just one cousin called Dorothy.  We tracked her down but were a few years too late as she’d already passed away.  Dorothy’s friend/neighbour was able to tell us that she’d been married to a British soldier in Malta and had two children, but sadly all three had been killed in the war, after which Dorothy returned to England and didn’t talk about much as she always became very upset.

I recently found two records for Dorothy in Malta stating all her husband’s details and that she had been in fact divorced from him after the war, not widowed.  I’ve since been able to trace their marriage and divorce, as well as the husband himself.  He also returned to England, remarried, had two daughters and died in the late 1990s.

I’ve still found nothing about the children however.  Malta registry can’t search for birth/death records unless I can provide exact names and dates, which I don’t have.  It seems you have to have a license to search the Malta registry, and the one genealogist I found in Malta I’ve been unable to get hold of, though I’ll keep trying.

My mum suggested to actually write to the husband’s daughter (she was the informant on his death cert, and according to the electoral rolls she was still at the address she gave on the cert a few years ago).  Basically I’m unsure if this is alright to do.  Even though it’s written on his second marriage cert that he was married before, what if the daughters didn’t know that.  Maybe this is the point I call it a day on Dorothy’s story.  Any thoughts on whether to write or not to write?

Many thanks,
Sophie

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