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Thank you ciderdrinker - that information is much appreciated

Thank you GCE,

There still seems to be some sorting out about for which children Mary Ann Muttart was really the mother. UK GRO says 3 but it would not cover Louisa unless she was also born in the UK (she wasn't)

My aunt married Walter Benham, whose mother was Emily Adelina Griggs, whose father was Wm Henry (m Martha Wake), whose father was William (m Wratten and Muttart) ... then I have his father was Wm (m Jane Auborn) - all settled in Bedfordshire

I have more detail I am trying to validate and share. Do you have Wm Henry's military record? Do you have the Muttart marriage record?

Ill collate my notes later if that is ok. Looks like we are reasonably close cousins genealogy speaking!

Yes Dundee - Only Emily born after William died

My email is antony.thurston@gmail.com

Thank you both for replying

Tony

I am not sure whether I should post my question in Antrim or Midlothian?

My family is descended from John Anderson (1830 - 1900). I am completely stuck trying to find John's ancestors although I know his family and life in Carrickfergus and then Shankhill from 1845

From an extract of Ballynure Old Church Gravestones I am investigating Thomas (1808 - 1883) as a possible father of John Anderson:

"Erected by Thomas Anderson to the memory of his beloved daughter Alice Jane who departed this life 11 Aug 1858 aged 19 years. Also, his beloved daughter Susan departed this life on 20 Jul 1862 aged 27 years. Thomas Anderson died at Ballynure on 17 Sep 1883 aged 75 years. Also, his wife Jane Anderson died 07 Mar 1888 aged 80 years."

On Thomas's death certificate his occupation is a butler and in the Belfast Newsletter on 22 Sep 1883, his obituary says he was a loyal servant for Conway Dobbs of Dobbs Castle for nearly 60 years.

Thomas's wife Jane died after Thomas and their son John was present at her death. From John's death record in Belfast in 1900 he was born abt. 1830. I am trying to trace Thomas, Jane and John's birth records which are implied around 1808, 1808 and 1830 respectively. In my family, John is described as a serving-man from Edinburgh but the records could be Ireland or Scotland. If  Thomas served Conway for nearly 60 years then roughly 1825 he started working for Conway aged around 16 to 21 years old

I am happy to post any further information. I would be extremely grateful for any steps I can take to unravel the Anderson and Dobbs connection and the origins of Thomas, please

Thank you

I have just seen this thread and I am very interested whether your Thomas connects to my Joseph.
My wife is descended from Joseph Bourne born1854 in Tunstall

Joseph's father Thomas Bourne married three times, Susannah Rowley Ford in 1849; Margery Lightfoot in 1858 and Maria Dicken in 1875.

The 1851 census suggests Thomas was born in Manchester in 1828. This record  fits with the first marriage and the birth of their first son Thomas born 1850 (this birth is transcribed incorrectly on ancestry as 1860). This record links Tunstall and Manchester

Thomas marries 3 times and his name changes from Bourne to Burne to Burn. His place of birth changes from Manchester (1851) to Tunstall (1861 and 1871) to Uldom Lancashire (1881) His father’s name changes from Thomas (first and second marriages) to John (third marriage). He was a slip maker in a pottery in 1851 and in his marriage records gives his father’s occupation as a potter.

I am looking for a pottery industry in/near Manchester and transfer of labour to and from Tunstall / Burslem I can investigate? This thread mentions Ralph Mansfield for which I believe the Mansfield family is a small DNA match via Sarah Bourne. I need to check

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you