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Antrim / Re: ISRAEL MILLIKEN, Belfast
« on: Thursday 16 October 25 18:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks,
Just for veracity's sake. The monument at Ballycarry's Templecorran Church Yard is not to William 0rr but to James Orr, known as the 'Bard of Ballycarry'. He was a Freemason and UIM who fought at Antrim. He later fled to America but returned and lived the rest of his life writing many famous poems later published, quite a few of which touched on 1798. On his death in 1816 His friends and fellow Freemasons built the monument to him at the Graveyard. Mary Ann McCracken and Israel Milliken were heavily involved also. Israel was the Treasurer of the group who raised the finances. The passage of time led to the physical monument's decline. Later in 2014 the Freemasons of Antrim paid for its refurbishment on which Israel's name is again proudly recorded.It is in my Graves Book at Unitedirishmen.ie

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Down / Re: Bailie surname in Portaferry
« on: Tuesday 06 September 22 09:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks,

Sorry for the lateness of my replies but I have been out of the country. I entered Francis twice. The grave stone was errected by John & Francis in memory of their father, David 'Dave' Bailie. d. 1/3/1821 (76yrs).

There is also a John d.31/5/1845. (52yrs)

Good luck


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Down / Re: Bailie surname in Portaferry
« on: Tuesday 06 September 22 09:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks ,
whilst looking at and photographing other graves I came across a Bailie grave the stone of which is still in fine order at Slans Graveyard near Portaferry. There are at least six names on the grave, Elizabeth[3] ( one nee Donnan), James , Francis, David, Francis . Circa 1821-1845. I intend to go back so will check if there are any others and post them for those members of the Bailie or Donnan clans.

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Down / Re: Bailie surname in Portaferry
« on: Saturday 20 August 22 23:26 BST (UK)  »
There are a number of Bailie family members buried in the Portaferry area mostly around the 1800’s. They are mostly in one particular graveyard.

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Antrim / Re: ISRAEL MILLIKEN, Belfast
« on: Wednesday 15 May 19 12:57 BST (UK)  »
Re Israel Milliken , Belfast.
Special thanks to dathai [/color]
Whilst in the grander scheme of things Israel Milliken is not seemingly a big player in 1798 a number of things entrique me concerning him.  He seems to have been one of the longest serving or actually interned prisoners at Kilmainham gaol. Virtually all the people arrested with him were released some months/ years earlier. Some of those arrested with him were far more senior and a much bigger threat than him. Cuthbert, the two Gordons and Storey to name but a few. They had been tried by the state before and were alleged to have killed many of their enemies, particulary informants.

The actual history records that I have and have accessed state virtually anything at all about Israel. The only mention Mary McCracken makes of him is that a few years before his death he was virtually bedridden and just made it to the fire side crippled with arthritis. Indeed in Mary McNeills excellent book on Mary Ann McCracken, poor old Israel's name doesnt even make it to the index. For such a man his name seems to have been virtually airbrushed from history. His name can't be found in Benns history of Belfast or indeed any of the five other books I have on Belfast. Nor is his baths.

It is now apparent that his father was called James and that Thomas Milliken was most likely his uncle. He was married to Elizabth ( nee. Kirkwood) and doesn't appear to have had any issue there from. I don't believe he was transported or went to America. His name does not appear in any of the letters or records of the American 1798 Exiles/ banished or in any of the excellent works on the subject.

By 1805 he appears to have accumulated quite a considerable fortune to be able to open a substanial Bathing house in a relatively shortime for someone incarcerated, which one can only assume he inheirted from either his father or uncle. If it is the father mentioned, James, he was a Slater. The records of the Sayer connection in other matters would suggest it is. James and Thomas were both Freemasons as was Sampsons Clarke, Israel's employer. The two lodges concerned Nos. 272 and 587 were both heavily infiltrated by the UIM command. Edward Kelly the Chairman of the UIM's 4th Belfast Society was a member of Jame's lodge No. 272. Israel was the secretary of the 4th Belfast Society.   :) :)


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Antrim / Re: ISRAEL MILLIKEN, Belfast
« on: Tuesday 14 May 19 01:07 BST (UK)  »
I would like to thank those people who have tried to assist me. It is very hard to try and unravel history some 200 years later. Thomas Milliken was  the Chairman of the 1st Belfast Society of the UIM and chaired their meeting on the 2/10/1792. ( Madden. P177). I am trying to find out if he was an uncle or the father of Israel. Israel is said to have been the Secretary of 4th Belfast Society on the 19/10/1792. Israel was an apprentice to a Hatter called Sampson Clarke and it was Clarke who wrote to Dublin Castle in 1798 to try and get them to release Israel telling them that he was going to go to America. We don't know if he did but his stop there must have been short indeed as he reappears in Belfast quite quickly in th 1800's. Israel's employment is also noted as a Book-keeper. (Exiles of 98 P. 183.) Gilmore, Parkhill & Roulston, et.al.Ulster Historical Foundation. :)

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Antrim / ISRAEL MILLIKEN, Belfast
« on: Saturday 11 May 19 11:48 BST (UK)  »
I am interested in any close relatives known of Israel Milliken of Peters hill Belfast. On his death the only property mentioned in his Will was left to his wife , a cousin and a friend.

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