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Surrey / Re: Burial of a baby Gap Lane Cemetary Merton
« on: Tuesday 28 October 25 17:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou Carole for checking those details - I agree with your findings. On the 1911 census James and Lucy Gardiner state they had had 12 children, I've found 11 of them so had wondered if this child was the 12 child.
However,  the surname of the baby who is buried with the Gardiners,  is Raven so my ideas are incorrect. I've also found details showing the birth &  baptism of 2 month old Dorothy Raven and her parents names just do not link with the couple buried in the same plot.

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Surrey / Burial of a baby Gap Lane Cemetary Merton
« on: Tuesday 28 October 25 12:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi I have found the deaths and burials of a couple ( James & Lucy Gardiner) in Gap Road Cemetary. James died in 1916 and Lucy in 1925.

I accessed the details of the burials on Deceased on Line and was surprised to see a baby was also buried with them. The baby, Dorothy Raven, died in 1894 - hers was the first burial in the plot. I have found her birth (June 1894)  and  Baptism which gives the names of her parents as Eliza and William Blakemore Raven. I presume this couple paid for the burial plot.

I know families did buy burial plots so members of the family could be buried together but I cannot find any link between this baby's family and the couple who died many years later.

Were, I wonder, plots resold to others at later date?

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The Common Room / Re: Twins or the same birth registered twice?
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 08:25 BST (UK)  »
I’m not sure which year this begun but I think that twin births also have the time of each birth on the birth certificate.

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The Common Room / Re: Foundlings birth records
« on: Tuesday 23 September 25 14:05 BST (UK)  »
Thank you AntonyMMM - I will send you a DM

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The Common Room / Re: Foundlings birth records
« on: Tuesday 23 September 25 13:24 BST (UK)  »
This is an update as I now received the certificate. I am now not sure whether the story we had been told about the baby being a foundling is accurate and I may need to post again under a different title for further help.

The certificate which was in the GRO records listing with the additional note 'Occasional Copy B' does contain extra information. Am now looking for help in interpreting what this might mean.

The informant is the mother, she has the surname I would expect and she has given an address I am familiar with for this family. Also in that same box it says 'per declaration' this  is dated 2 days before the date of the registration. Does this mean that the mother sent some sort of note in to the registrar but was not actually present - even though she is 'the informant' ?

Added at the end of the entry is a note that the baby was adopted.

There is a further puzzle in that it names a father - he has the same surname as the mother. However, in the section which asks for the name of the mother there is a maiden name. This name is unknown to me and I cannot find a marriage registered for these two people.

I do have an outlandish idea running through my mind but would love to hear some ideas how  others might interpret this. 

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The Common Room / Re: Foundlings birth records
« on: Saturday 13 September 25 07:01 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your suggestions GP. I’ll wait until the certificate arrives and see what it reveals. I’ll post again if there is anything unusual.

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The Common Room / Re: Foundlings birth records
« on: Friday 12 September 25 17:06 BST (UK)  »
The baby in the birth I am trying to locate was, we were told, left to be found. So not connected to the Coram hospital. Thanks for the suggestion though.

The baby, in my search,  was said to be found in a hotel and had been left safe and warm.

Using the term 'unknown' in the space for surname did reveal a child with a girls' Christian name. I've made a note of the details and may send for the certificate to see if it gives any more clues.

This is because I've now found a birth entry, on Free BMD,  which shows the surname I would expect - however, this is as a married surname ( there is an unfamiliar surname given as maiden name). This entry though has the term 'Occasional Copy B' added. I know this is something to do with a correction of an of an earlier entry. I have now sent for this certificate and so will hold on the first find until I see what this one has to say.

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The Common Room / Re: Foundlings birth records
« on: Friday 12 September 25 12:36 BST (UK)  »
Thankyou. I will try looking for surname unknown - an new idea to me.

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The Common Room / Foundlings birth records
« on: Friday 12 September 25 11:40 BST (UK)  »
I am not quite sure where to put this on the board, so please move if necessary.

I understand that foundling births will not have a birth certificate containing the details as we know them. I have read though, that there is a record of babies, without a parents name, which is recorded after the letter Z in the birth records.
Is it possible to look at these records? The time period is 1920/1930's.

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