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Lanarkshire / Re: Reilly family Glasgow and Mayo
« on: Monday 13 May 19 18:37 BST (UK)  »
p.s. I am researching a Reilly in Glasgow but not your Reilly's, also, I know Clydebank.  That's why your message caught my eye.  Good luck with your research.

Garnethill:  I also have Ryelly/O'Ryelly/Riley in my tree.  Catherine O'Ryelly married John KELLY (!!), both born Ireland, in 1866 Edinburgh, then moved to Glasgow and appear on the 1881 Glasgow.  Any connection?
Sorry, my Reilly's have never appeared in Edinburgh, they are all in the Govan area of Glasgow.  Perhaps you have a connection with the original poster but he/she seems not to have been online for quite some time.  Best of luck with your research

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Further info: 1.  I made a list of John Reilly and Mary Macken's entries that I found.  I will attach it here and hope it's readable.
2. Important:  My Grandfather, James Reilly in Glasgow with these parent names: I thought that he was the John Reilly twin shown on the list but using the name James.  New information has come to light that James is indeed James and his brother John is found as staying at James' address in Glasgow when he married!  So now, I don't understand why there is no James showing in Ireland to these parents.  Both James and John in Glasgow, show the same parents names.  On 18 Jul 1898 James marries in Glasgow and his age shown as 24.  On 1st Jan, 1907 John marries in Glasgow and his age shown as 28, so born c1878?  Since no record of a James, perhaps Patrick born 1874 was named Patrick James ... or should I look elsewhere other than Co. Cavan to find another John Reilly and Mary Macken as parents?  I am not sure how to proceed now.

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If you could tell us the names and dates of the other children we could look at the certs.
Does it say Workhouse under the father's name on each cert
or
Does it say Workhouse under the date of birth?
  I think I posted all the records above.  I have a record for their marriage, and 3 births of 4 children and one for his possible death in the other workhouse in Drogheda (wrong date for age and marital status is wrong too).  Let me know if you need a link not found in previous posts.

Thanks for any help

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Yes...they only show there because Births were there...doesn't mean they lived there!

ok.  So they may have lived in the area and the wife went there to give birth? 

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I had already read a lot of info on the Workhouses on the Workhouses dot org website before joining this Forum.  I am slightly confused though:  The rules of the workhouses seemed to say that males and females were separated.  My couple that I am researching, paupers, married and had 4 children (3 births, 1 was twins) and always shown address as Bailieboro Workhouse.  So, how did that work?  Was the husband resident in the Workhouse and she not, but only went there to deliver her babies, or, were they both there?  At one point I think they were both shown as labourers, address Workhouse.  In the end, at the birth record of their last child in 1980, address is shown as Workhouse but with a notation that he had already died before the birth in another workhouse in Drogheda.  So, in closing, I would like to know how it worked for a couple to marry and have children while recorded as at the workhouse? 

I do appreciate all the help from everyone who responded to my post.


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You didn't live at the workhouse, existed would be closer to the mark, you wouldn't be allowed to live as a family at the workhouse, they did all they could be make them as uncomfortable as possible because you were costing the Union money by being there.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Bailieborough/
Yes, I understand.  They obviously spent some time together as did many others I noticed - who were there and had children.  I don't understand why he was then able to move to Drogheda, or they moved him while his wife was pregnant and he died just before his wife gave birth.  What do you think? and do you think it's just errors re his age and his marital status?

Cheers

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No....at the time I didn't know he was a Pauper!
Sorry, I should have said.  On the various bits I have gathered, they are paupers and labourers.  I am new at this.  I assumed, maybe wrongly, that the lived at the workhouse.

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Joseph
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02874/2053012.pdf

so it says John deceased Drogheda.
Not Drogheda workhouse.
Right, but the informant was the Chief Res. Officer of the Workhouse

p.s. could you please tell me how to reply to a post without hitting the quote button?

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Then Searched

SR District/Reg Area - Bailieborough

Marriage of JOHN REILLY and MARY MACKEN on 04 June 1873

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11271/8133948.pdf

both Paupers!

So not Medical Staff which might have explained move to Drogheda!

Sorry, not sure what you mean.  Are you saying he would be sent to Drogheda for medical treatment rather than hospital at the Bailieboro Workhouse?

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