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I have read right through this great piece of detective work.
I didn't see any christening of Sarah Page / Bardin . . . did I miss that, or has it not been found ?
Thanks

Thank you Trish !

Hi Matt,
The short answer is that John Hendley and Thomas Henley, who both had daughters called Alice, were brothers.
Here is the longer version (I find it difficult to format these ancestor lists in Rootschat): as far as I know, all the events listed took place in Cranbrook . . .
John (1) Henly = Mary Forster [no dates at all]
Son of the above, John (2) Henley = Mary Braley [no dates at all]
Sons of the above were John (3) and Thomas Henley
John (3) Henly (will dated 8 Nov 1472, proved 2 Dec 1472) = Mercy Daniels (d c1490). Their daughter Alice married Thomas Sheffe (will dated 5 Apr 1520, proved 10 Jul 1520) around 1496
Thomas Henley (will dated 11 Sep 1495, I think, proved 11 Feb 1496) = Joan Shoyswell. Their daughter Alice married Edward Horden. Alice and/or her husband Edward are menioned in the wills of both of Alice's parents Thomas and Joan, which is the information which makes it impossible for her to have married Thomas Sheffe.
In passing, Thomas Henley and Joan Shoyswell had a son Gervase Hendley (will dated 15 Nov 1533, proved 6 May 1534) who married Elizabeth Roberts.
Three notes:
1. I am unsure when the "d" crept into Henley
2. The Roberts family were originally Rockhurst or Rookhurst of Glassenbury Manor. Elizabeth's father changed the name as he thought that Rockhurst was too "common"
3. I have used the Gregorian calendar throughout

I am pretty certain that I have solved the mystery of Alice who married Thomas Sheffe.

I posted this in Wikitree recently . . .

Alice the daughter of Thomas Henley and Joan Shoyswell was married to Edward Horden and Joan's will dated 1508 referes to her as the wife of Edward Horden. But Alice had to have married Thomas Sheffe before then, as they were already having children.

HOWEVER, Thomas' older brother John (rarely mentioned) also had a daughter Alice and, for her, the dates work because she didn't have a husband before she married Thomas Sheffe. Her birth date is unkown. She seems to be the only Alice Hendley who could have been Thomas' wife.

Now we come to the inevitable muddle when assigning wives, two of whom were called Mary, to a succession of men all called John Henley.

Sometimes the oldest John Henley that I know of is said to have married Mary Mercy (Forster) and there are other variations.

I believe that the correct assignations are actually as follows . . .

John Henley (Will dated 8 November 1472, Proved 2 December 1472), the brother of Thomas Henley (who died in 1496) married Mercy (maiden name uncertain). This 1472 date keeps cropping up (it has been stated as the death date of all 3 John Henleys) but I have only seen the one document sourcing it - the will above. Family Search states, un-sourced, that this John Henley married Mercy Daniels. I have found no corroboration, nor anything to deny this assertion.

John's (above) father John Henley (approx 1400 - 1472) married Mary Braley. He could well have died in the same year as his son as the younger John was only 32 when he died.

John's (above) father John Henley (no dates for him at the moment) married Mary Forster

That's all I have - would be delighted if anyone can fill in any of my gaps !

Um . . . how do I do a PM ini RootsChat ??