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Herefordshire / Re: Harriett Gardener
« on: Wednesday 21 May 25 10:09 BST (UK) »
CaroleW: I agree with your comments at post #2 and would question the 1801 birth for obvious reasons, although the 41/ 51/ and 61 census gives the correct age for an 1801 birth with the place of birth as Mansel Lacy, same as Uvedales
At post #4, I have an 1871 census for James Davies, occupation Cooper, which is correct, born in the same place as his parents marriage, Hope under Dinmore, James was born in 1821 following the death of his brother of the same name in 1819.
James would have been 50 in 1871, the census shows him as 58.
His wife, Sarah Trilloe, was also born in 1821, the census shows her age as 49 which is nearer the mark.
Children listed are Thomas age 15 and Emily age 11, which tally.
Following Uvedales death in 1862, I accept Harriett could have gone to live with one of her children but it wasn't James.
Neale1961: At post #3. I take your point, I cant find a Harriett Gardener at all born in Mansel Lacy and its too much of a stretch to assume one of the potential other 3 I have found in Hereford around that time are a good match, in fact there is no evidence available to substantiate this.
At post #5. I agree with everything you have said here, the thing that would clear it up is a baptism record for James 1821 but I cant find one either.
I think you are right, the Leominster death for James 1817 is not correct.
To further complicate matters, James son Thomas, born 1854, is my 2 times grandfather, everything tallies from the census records but I cant find a baptism record for him either although BMD throws up a couple of good GRO leads for Weobley.
At post #4, I have an 1871 census for James Davies, occupation Cooper, which is correct, born in the same place as his parents marriage, Hope under Dinmore, James was born in 1821 following the death of his brother of the same name in 1819.
James would have been 50 in 1871, the census shows him as 58.
His wife, Sarah Trilloe, was also born in 1821, the census shows her age as 49 which is nearer the mark.
Children listed are Thomas age 15 and Emily age 11, which tally.
Following Uvedales death in 1862, I accept Harriett could have gone to live with one of her children but it wasn't James.
Neale1961: At post #3. I take your point, I cant find a Harriett Gardener at all born in Mansel Lacy and its too much of a stretch to assume one of the potential other 3 I have found in Hereford around that time are a good match, in fact there is no evidence available to substantiate this.
At post #5. I agree with everything you have said here, the thing that would clear it up is a baptism record for James 1821 but I cant find one either.
I think you are right, the Leominster death for James 1817 is not correct.
To further complicate matters, James son Thomas, born 1854, is my 2 times grandfather, everything tallies from the census records but I cant find a baptism record for him either although BMD throws up a couple of good GRO leads for Weobley.