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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 15:35 GMT (UK)  »
The occupation:stone mason is probably how he met up with the Cuttings as his father-in-law owned s construction company(dressed stone buildings)

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 15:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi ladies!(Westernwombat and anicalouw). I have been following all of the posts on this thread with great interest. My opinion is that Edward is the Eddie noted by his mother on his sibling's birth registration AND the absconder who left his illegitimate child and his mother in the lurch. This is not unusual and he was young! The irony is that he later became a policeman! 😊 Although his brother-in-law (Vera's husband Martheze) was also a policeman. His son and 2 son-in-laws also became policemen.

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 12:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi! Westerwombat. yr post #94-I have seen the marriage of Elizabeth and Edward. It was in 1900. He was noted as 24 and she as 20, and her parents gave permission for her marriage. I think a James Landell was a witness and also a Cutting lady. Apparently Catharina (anicalouw) has noted a death (D/N?) for Edward-she states he died in Kalk Bay and is buried at the Methodist Church. I haven't looked for it yet.

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 12:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Westernwombat!
Thanks so much for your efforts! As I may have stated when I first started my tree (with the Cuttings) I was very clueless and although I found records I didn't record them (although I have reams of printouts of records!) and then I only found Elizabeth, her mother and grandmother in this last week, so I haven't been able to check through everything yet. It appears her grandmother was born in St Helena which is another mission! Vera is my great grandmother, so naturally her direct line is of most importance to me.You bring up 2 important and interesting questions which need further investigation. I have Thomas' DOB as an estimate so likely I had not found any records besides his birthday (per our birthday book). I did find Elizabeth born Ingham)'s baptism which states her DOB as 14 August 1860. I have some work ahead of me! Once again, thanks! I don't know if any of this has helped you in your search, unfortunately. But it has helped me! :) 

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Catharina!
Edward Landells DOB is definitely 24 March 1876. This is confirmed as his birthday is noted as March 24 in our birthday book and his age as 24 on the marriage register(Kalk Bay 20 March 1990) . Edward probably came from Australia...not something we knew until last week! But Elizabeth was definitely born in South Africa, as her parents and siblings are all born here. She is named on her mother's D/N by her sister who completed it. I do need to do some more research on her. She is not in my direct line and I wasn't really sure of her existence until last week. My mother's memory is a bit hazy but she does remember Landells in the family as well as Vera having a sister whom they called Lizzie, but she does seem to be a bit of a mystery. Despite Edward and Douglas and Adelaide appearing in our birthday book, SHE doesn't! (?)She is noted as being 20 at her wedding in 1900. Could she actually have been 22 and be the Elizabeth I found being baptised in Wynberg in 1878? Or did that one pass away and when she was born (maybe on the way to the diamond fields) she was given the name(again)? I am not sure, but she is definitely part of our family, whatever. Our birthday book has Douglas' birthday as 2 December (as indicated at his baptism) and Adelaide as 19 December (I believe that is correct per the baptism, I just haven't recorded it yet). Anyway, great to hear from you! Let me know if you would like to hear more or you think of anything else. As I said before you can check out my tree on Myheritage and there is also a lot of Cutting info on family search. I am also on facebook. I tell you we all have stories to tell! I never met my father's father, although he was around. He was a piece of work, which makes doing THAT side of my tree a mission! Cheers!       

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 07:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Catharina (anicalouw), or should I say, "my cousin"!. Do you perhaps have any sources corroborating your side of the family's DOB and DOD and/or a family tree? If you have been following the posts we have some discrepancies which we need to figure out... Glad to hear from you!

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 07:13 GMT (UK)  »
Westernwombat. Just wanted to add.....there is the perid when Elizabeth's parents went off to the diamond fields of Kimberley( where my gr gran was born) which could have had an effect on her mother's fertility. It was not unusual in those days to have siblings of such differing ages, but yes this needs further research.

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 19 March 19 07:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Westernwombat. There is the discrepancy between the fist listed children and the later ones which I need to research further, but I do know that the Landells are relatives because of the birthday book and Elizabeth's neice (Thomas' daughter, Beth) confirms this. I do have the D/N for Elizabeth's mother-also Elizabeth. She was staying with her daughter Hilda Orchard at the time and it us also on this D/N that Elizabeth Landells is listed as Hilda's sister.

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Monday 18 March 19 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Westernwombat
I apparently will need to reply to your message on the public notice board because I am a new member-I actually came upon these posts by chance and I must say it makes interesting reading! I am only related to Edward (as we know him) through his marriage to Elizabeth, but I am therefore related to his 4 children and all of the Cuttings. Elizabeth was my great grandmother Vera's sister, although for some reason I did not have her as a definite sibling until a week ago and some sleuthing. I had to rely on my mother's not-so-good memory (she is 81 and in the beginning stages of dementia), but I do have Edward and his 2 oldest children's birthdays annotated in a birthday book which belonged to another sister, Lily and was passed to my grandmother. And they also appear in my grandmother's birthday book so she must have known them. Elizabeth's parents were Thomas Henry Cutting(b1860) and Elizabeth nee Ingham(b c 1860). Thomas owned a construction company in Muizenberg and built many of the dressed stone buildings thereabout, but prior to that he and his father (William Thomas) owned the omnibus company that ferried people from Cape Town to the Southern Peninsular prior to the railways being established. William Thomas grandfather, William was one of the first British Settlers to the Cape, arriving with the first party in Cape Town, prior to the (famous)1820 Settler parties to the Eastern Cape. William(PROG)'s wife was the daughter of a retired soldier, Robert Cooper. While I am in contact with a couple of Cutting descendants, as yet I have not been able to make contact with any with either the surname Cutting or Landells.   

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