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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Ormshaw's in Wigan look up please
« on: Monday 20 August 12 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi em79,

I haven't been on rootschat in ages bu got an email saying you had replied to this topic.

if you check on my previous postings I've done a fair bit on my line regarding Alice Ormshaw daughter of Catherine adn William Ormshaw. I've got their whole family mapped out.

William and Catherine Ormshaw are my 4xggrandparents. Their daughter Alice married a Thomas Rudd. I found out about the Ormshaw connection largely to an illegitimate orphan further down the track who had his surname changed to Rudd.

If what you say is correct, then we may well be related. Its a small world!!

If you want more information just pm me, though i dont have everything on hand. It's now at my parents house but shouldn't be too much of a problem for me to retrieve within the next week :)

Looking forward to hearing from you

Jen

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: TURK 1841/ 51 look up
« on: Friday 07 October 11 06:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that John,

It seems I may have gone up the wrong tree.

Looking at the Sussex weald site seems to indicate so, but then it makes it all the more frustrating when parent names haven't been included on certificates (unusual when the certificates are Australian).

Never mind, I will continue poking around and see if I can gather soem more firm evidence before going on yet another wild  goose chase!

Thanks for all your help tho, much appreciated :)

Jen

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Sussex Lookup Requests / TURK 1841/ 51 look up
« on: Tuesday 27 September 11 04:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi all!

am wondering if someone can look up the following family for me

Joseph TURK approximate age 54 (b. 1787)

With wife Elizabeth TURK

I'm fairly confident they're residing near Withyham, at least that's what Familysearch indicates.

Possible children could be Job, lydia, Hannah, Susannah.


Many thanks in advance for your help :)

Regards,
Jen

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Lancashire / Re: Seven infant deaths - same family?
« on: Wednesday 04 November 09 05:21 GMT (UK)  »
Glad it was of some use!

And just to add something further if you don't already know...

1911 census seems to indicate Emily Bowler listed as EMMA

Emma seems to share a household with at the very least:

George aged 16
John  aged 10
Albert aged 4


Obviously George and John are hers, Albert could be a grandson? The girls are no longer there but could be married.. You'll have to access the transcript for more info.

I got this from a basic search of the 1911 and they are living in Ince, Wigan Lancashire

kindest regards
Jen :)


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Lancashire / Re: Seven infant deaths - same family?
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
Aha!

It works :) it seems Emily is living with Ada Ellen aged 18, then theres a jump down to Elizabeth Jane aged 9 (that would be the one born 1891 - so she survived), then theres George aged 6 (born 1894) and John born 1900 aged 0.

Which means you can most likely rule out George Wilfred born 1894.

So, so far looks like the family is:

Ada Ellen - 1882
George Edward - 1885
Annie - 1886
William - 1889
Elizabeth Jane -1891
George - 1894
John - 1900

The ones we can eliminate are:

Rhoemena - 1890
George Wilfred -1894
George - 1885
George - 1899


And the outstanding ones:

Thomas Edward - 1889
John - 1892  (found another!)
Florence Batheda - 1893
Annie - 1898
Alice -1898
Fred - 1899

Annie and Alice were born in different quarters so at the very least one of them is not yours!
Thomas E is probably not yours either as he was also registered in September quarter as Will C BUT listed on completely different page numbers - and no not pages that would appear next to each other which eliminates twins (my assumption anyway)

Fred is a ? he was registered Dec qtr 1899  which makes it a close call considering John who is alive in the 1901 census was registered Sep Qtr 1900, doesn't leave much time really... but it is possible I suppose!
And the same goes for John 1892. He is listed Sep Qtr but Elizabeth listed Dec Qtr 1891 - again a close call but it can be possible.

Hope this has helped somewhat!

Cheers
Jen :)

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Lancashire / Re: Seven infant deaths - same family?
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 10:52 GMT (UK)  »
Me again,

might be a silly question...

Have you got the 1901 census? If you look up Ada (Ellen) Bowler she is aged 18 born barrow (fits with 1891 return) you can probably see who she is living with.

I find this useful sometimes to eliminate infant deaths where a name appears as 'living'. Eg. if there is a child named George in 1901 who was born during the 1890's then you can eliminate the other Georges that were born and died during the 1890's. Does that make sense? Perhaps not  ::)

Do you know when Emily the mother died? If so and it was after 1911 you can see how many children she had. Isn't the 1911 census suppose to record how many children dead or alive a woman had?

Cheers
Jen

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Lancashire / Re: Seven infant deaths - same family?
« on: Tuesday 03 November 09 06:14 GMT (UK)  »
If you look at Wignworld they have records for INce cemetery.

George Wilfred's death is listed 1896 aged 2 yrs living at 65 Ingram St.

Does this address ring any bells? If not probably another one to eliminate?

Unfortunately there are not many Bowlers listed only 3 in fact!

Hope this has helped somewhat

Cheers
Jen

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The Common Room / Re: Names and the sudden urges to confuse others!
« on: Wednesday 12 August 09 11:39 BST (UK)  »
I'm still young (not yet 30!)... my mum is still very much with me.

Good thing i got interested now rather than later when future generations will ask me questions!

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1891 lookup please - EASTHAM puzzle
« on: Wednesday 12 August 09 11:33 BST (UK)  »
hmmm that is interesting

the other names don't ring any bells obviously but age is right 'Southport' could be a clue

But havign said that the 1901 lists Martha/ Mary as being born in Wigan...

And it still doesnt solve the problem of her possible being a 'sister' to THomas EASTHAM...

I can't see any Eastham marrying a Judge either.

The mind ponders!

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