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off the top of his head dad said he thinks he died in the 1920s  because his granny married a skelding in the 1930s but he will check it out

yes that was it , i remember hearing that story when i was little, my dad said that he as got a photo of Grandad with aunt Nell standing at the gate of her house  or his Granny's house and he will sort it out and i will send it to you

Thank you, The photos are brilliant, my dad is the one who does the family tree, and he does have a copy of the photo but not the cleaned up version, when i just phoned him he described the photo to me over the phone and he said  he knew the the women as his aunt Nell and her granddaughter, and he remembers going to his aunt Nells  and he remembers that she had two HANDGRENADES on the mantle

Hello, my grandfather was Clifford Harper born 25th August 1914. He was the son of William Harper b:1887 and Mary Jane darlow. B:1889