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Flintshire / Re: Able Seaman John Jones, died at Holywell, 1902
« on: Thursday 31 October 24 19:18 GMT (UK)  »
I did a search in the 1901 census for anyone by the name of Robert Williams living in Greenfield, who might have had a John Jones also living at their address, but nothing. Also looked for a John Jones who was in hospital at the time of the 1901 census. There were about 15 with that name at the Royal Naval Hospital, Haslar, and there was a John Cadwallader Jones, born Liverpool in 1870, but it wasn't the right John Jones because that one died in 1944.

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Flintshire / Re: Able Seaman John Jones, died at Holywell, 1902
« on: Thursday 31 October 24 15:09 GMT (UK)  »
The death certificate says that he died on the 14th August 1902, so I'd say it's odds on that he's the same John Jones that was buried at Holywell Parish Church on the 18th. He died at Greenfield, and the name and address of the informant was Robert Williams - whose signature was "X The mark of Robert Williams" - who lived at Bryn Celyn, Greenfield, and he was the brother-in-law of John Jones.

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Flintshire / Re: Able Seaman John Jones, died at Holywell, 1902
« on: Tuesday 22 October 24 19:15 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for your responses. I shall get a copy of his death certificate, then at least I'll have the definite date of his death, also whether he died in hospital or at home.

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3176215/3176222/33/john%2BOR%2Bjones

Says he was buried a few days ago and spared a paupers coffin and parish grave through the sacrifices of his sister.

Thank you for the translation.

Parish Church Holywell
John Jones, bur Aug 18th, residence Bryncelyn, age 30
The FindMyPast trancript shows "Bagillt"

Possibility?

Thanks very much, I'll have a search in the 1901 census for him in Bagillt.

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Flintshire / Able Seaman John Jones, died at Holywell, 1902
« on: Monday 21 October 24 19:31 BST (UK)  »
I came across this mention of his death, and a poem to commemorate him, both of which appeared in several newspapers towards the end of August 1902. He'd served on H.M.S. Powerful during the Boer War in South Africa, and seems to have been part of the naval brigade that helped to relieve Ladysmith, but, other than saying that he died in Holywell, the report has no more information, not even the date of death, which was may have been in July or August.

Can anyone add anything to this, please? I'm no relation to him, just saddened that he's been completely forgotten.

JOHN JONES.

      [John Jones, A.B., one of the men who served the 4.7 guns of his Majesty's ship Powerful during the siege of Ladysmith, has died at Holywell. Paralysis followed the reaction of the relief, and Jones was invalided home on a small pension that was secured with difficulty.]

There's nought romantic in the name—John Jones,
It sounds prosaic, flat and tame—John Jones.
Beside your Percys, Drummonds, Lacys,
Maguires, Macdonalds, Duffs and Tracys,
It wears the plainest of all faces—John Jones.

He got to Ladysmith in time—John Jones;
Took part in that defence sublime—John Jones;
One of the "Powerful's" thunderers he
Served with dogged ability,
Helping the gallant town to free—John Jones.

He paid for glory with his life—John Jones;
Best is his portion instead of strife—John Jones;
Far in the wilds of his native Wales
There he'll sleep in one of the dales
Till the great Trump the air assails—John Jones.

There's many like him, you take my word—John Jones,
Their names perhaps are not often heard—John Jones;
They haven't the chance to man a gun,
But they toil from morn to the set of sun,
And 'tis honest sweat when the day is done—John Jones.

Deeds of daring below the ground—John Jones,
Deeds with immortal glory crowned—John Jones;
When dawns at length the last great Day
And prouder names have fallen away,
"Well done," an awful Voice will say, "John Jones!"
......Western Mail."
...........................................................IDRIS.

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Brilliant! Thank you very much everybody, I really appreciate all the work put into solving this. Gold stars for you all.


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My thanks to heywood and all who have responded and helped sort out the Ginder/Robinson poser.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Gindre/Robinson, Lees, Lancashire - 1891/1901
« on: Saturday 08 October 22 14:46 BST (UK)  »
One of the ABW Forum's experts came up with James's occupations - "When he joined up he was a Moulder. 1911 Has him working as a Dock Labourer, He married Emily Ward in 1903.
Edit....Marriage was in 1902 October, St Winifred's Manchester."

James Ginder deserted from the Royal Artillery on the 6th of April 1890, and enlisted with the Black Watch as J. Robinson just under two months later.


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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Gindre/Robinson, Lees, Lancashire - 1891/1901
« on: Saturday 08 October 22 06:18 BST (UK)  »
In that WW1 file, there are records which indicate he can’t be found in BW.
What was his occupation on his marriage?

No information on James, but Augustus was a grocer.

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